CyclopsDog wrote on 2021-07-31 09:56:16:
dwarjam wrote on 2021-07-31 09:26:48:
CyclopsDog wrote on 2021-07-31 08:08:06:
So if this
is a new ancient breed my only question is why is it the exact same pose as a skydancer f? :/ One bottom leg is even lifted off the ground on both!! And one arm is higher than the other on both too.
I always figured since ancients don't wear clothes they literally have infinite possibilities. They don't have to have the classic 2 wings, 4 legs. If this hypothetical new ancient has two heads thats awesome! That's what I mean, you can do anything with these ancients. But you choose to continue the 4 legs, 2 wings, and what's worse; you make this theoretically really cool breed in the exact pose as a skydancer f .-. Idk man
banescales broke the cycle of 4 legs, 2 wings, 1 head thing already.
this one seemingly has 2, possibly 3 heads. time will show.
these poses are also very similar, and the list goes on.
I personally think it is fine. still gives flexibility with making skins and accents.
Okay well Im talking about ancients only here. Modern dragon breeds (your examples) are fine with their poses. Not to mention 2 of your examples are the same breed of dragon which would give them similar poses.
Banescales are also the Only ancient breed to have broken their 4 legs 2 wings rule so far. The point of ancients were to be different than the modern breeds and so far they haven't delivered.
It's not even just a similar pose it is the EXACT SAME as a skydancer f.
Veilspuns/Gaolers may not legitimately break the limb rule, but You would never see such long hair, such big horns and such small wings in modern dragons. Plus, they have line-breaking terts which also change their silhouette.
This dragon looks like it has
multiple heads and you're complaining how they have the same pose as another dragon which somehow makes them boring? But it's okay to have the same pose for modern dragons for reasons not explicit in your post?
You complain that ancients so far haven't been different (arguable, bc of line breaker terts) from moderns yet here we're talking about a dragon with multiple heads (and tails) being somehow too similar to a dragon with one head, just because they have the same pose?
Obviously, there's a lot of dragon in this new breed and it has to fit in a small box, which has limited the way breeds are able to be drawn and posed in the past. It's clear that there are various points of interest on this dragon that needed to be fit inside:
A) multiple heads, the main event, each having visible differences between, takes up a quarter minimum out of necessity.
B) Wings, visibly smaller to make room for the rest, visibly torn/mangled, creating an affect how we perceive the dragon
C) Two Tails
D) Four legs, with notably sharp claws
E) The body
It was obviously decided for a reason why a dragon had certain features to convey certain ideas. With multiple heads, the dragon was already going to be very top heavy like a skydancer, and I can't see any form of top-down pose working, like male mirrors' or female imps' pose. So one of the top two quarters basically have to have the heads.
The wings (chosen to stay as they can convey plague vibes by being torn heavily), therfore have to fill the other available top space, and the body has to twist beneath the two. Already much alike the sky fem pose. The tails are on the opposite end of the body, obviously. The legs are similarly posed to the skydancer probably to show off the sharp claws, and unlike the skydancer pose, the fingers and toes are flexing, to further draw the attention to the claws.
This means it is articulated in the same way as a skydancer, but for completely different reasons. A skydancer is delicate and light, poised for flight. This dragon is coiled, tangled and does not look relaxed like the skydancer does. If you 'pressed play' it would take a step with its lifted back foot before it started shredding whatever lied in its way. It is very reminiscent of a tarantula or snake holding a 'threat posture' when defensive.
At least, that's what makes them different from what I can see currently (ie without seeing any of its full body/genes)
I'm confused where the line crosses for you and what you want. I would love if you
could please clarify so we can at least be on the same page as to why you are upset?