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[quote name="JashinDamnit" date="2020-01-12 12:55:50" ] you are 100% okay with wasting your money [/quote] Come on... They didn't say they are ok with wasting their money and you know it. What you downplay as "blunt" is aggressive. There is a thing called emotional contagion. You are subjecting bystanders to it, even though you could choose to be considerate in public while expressing disapproval, and work through your emotions in private. That's the only point i've seen them make. Saw no one say that you shouldn't/can't feel the way you feel. The inconsiderate comments upset me. Even though only about a roughly 1 out of 5 disapproving comments are actually toxic, bad apples do spoil the barrel. I personally would just like that to be acknowledged and wish people would be just a bit kinder. My opinion on the core of the problem is that, if staff really didn't notify people about the errors or the upcoming fixes, then that's not very professional and people rightfully point that out. I actually assumed there was an official notification about it and i just missed it. I noticed the banescale metallic/alloy genes looked off and assumed it's an error, but customers should have more to rely on than just their own assumptions, no? I wouldn't expect getting a big announcement about every little misplaced pixel, but this was not little. Transparency would go a long way toward preserving the community's peace of mind, among other things. I don't understand. You address upcoming outstanding downtimes because (i assume) you know otherwise people might be upset/concerned for being randomly denied access, so why not address upcoming outstanding visual modifications? I wish continued success to FR, and i honestly believe that this would help everybody. Please consider it.
JashinDamnit wrote on 2020-01-12 12:55:50:
you are 100% okay with wasting your money
Come on...

They didn't say they are ok with wasting their money and you know it.

What you downplay as "blunt" is aggressive. There is a thing called emotional contagion. You are subjecting bystanders to it, even though you could choose to be considerate in public while expressing disapproval, and work through your emotions in private. That's the only point i've seen them make. Saw no one say that you shouldn't/can't feel the way you feel.

The inconsiderate comments upset me. Even though only about a roughly 1 out of 5 disapproving comments are actually toxic, bad apples do spoil the barrel. I personally would just like that to be acknowledged and wish people would be just a bit kinder.

My opinion on the core of the problem is that, if staff really didn't notify people about the errors or the upcoming fixes, then that's not very professional and people rightfully point that out. I actually assumed there was an official notification about it and i just missed it. I noticed the banescale metallic/alloy genes looked off and assumed it's an error, but customers should have more to rely on than just their own assumptions, no? I wouldn't expect getting a big announcement about every little misplaced pixel, but this was not little. Transparency would go a long way toward preserving the community's peace of mind, among other things. I don't understand. You address upcoming outstanding downtimes because (i assume) you know otherwise people might be upset/concerned for being randomly denied access, so why not address upcoming outstanding visual modifications? I wish continued success to FR, and i honestly believe that this would help everybody. Please consider it.
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omg this is awesome! [emoji=cat 3 size=1]
omg this is awesome!
We need Iri Shim though
We need Iri Shim though
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[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=131&bodygene=29&breed=17&element=10&eyetype=5&gender=1&tert=36&tertgene=3&winggene=30&wings=118&auth=02ab47673ae41d2f9d10ece5bcd18ca0b3b5da06&dummyext=prev.png[/img] pls fix, my girl's eyeballs are flying off of her body
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pls fix, my girl's eyeballs are flying off of her body
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*Lairs now support 20 tabs (up from 15). Tabs 16-20 cost 50,000 treasure each. I know that period looks strange, but several of my English teachers have insisted it is the correct style... not that I blame you if you'd rather keep it as-is though [emoji=snapper laughing size=1] ETA: RE: the above post, multi eyes do that on male Bane tails too [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=55&bodygene=0&breed=18&element=5&eyetype=5&gender=0&tert=44&tertgene=41&winggene=0&wings=55&auth=4123736e8ab3fa5e0ea62a89d29bd4404d85e198&dummyext=prev.png[/img] & FWIW I think the new metallic & alloy look lovely... although, it looks like there's a little fan/multigaze overlap on the torso/hip of female banes (and male banes, above): [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=139&bodygene=49&breed=18&element=1&eyetype=5&gender=1&tert=44&tertgene=41&winggene=49&wings=44&auth=c778bc03b383a57da8225c00bae5b5c599cc3823&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Male gaolers haven't escaped it either, and I think the eyes on the tail mess up the perspective a bit: [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=55&bodygene=0&breed=17&element=5&eyetype=5&gender=0&tert=44&tertgene=3&winggene=0&wings=55&auth=33f1048e311241db4059e26f76716084a029f6da&dummyext=prev.png[/img] And now that I'm trying to break things, I notice that some of the flowers in Blossom also fall under the eyes a little bit: [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=50&bodygene=0&breed=17&element=5&eyetype=5&gender=1&tert=44&tertgene=36&winggene=0&wings=50&auth=4421722082854c1ceb685f23e7a914d9308c06f8&dummyext=prev.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=50&bodygene=0&breed=17&element=5&eyetype=5&gender=0&tert=44&tertgene=36&winggene=0&wings=50&auth=3ed044a0d5dc52a525ea39357d31fd69fa060135&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Shardflank: [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=76&bodygene=0&breed=17&element=1&eyetype=5&gender=1&tert=99&tertgene=26&winggene=0&wings=76&auth=031370d4f93f14dcefb1d2865cdcb75b7d12eba9&dummyext=prev.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=76&bodygene=0&breed=17&element=1&eyetype=5&gender=0&tert=99&tertgene=26&winggene=0&wings=76&auth=0f61851baf7ad2db50dcc4b88d3690e68df6bc38&dummyext=prev.png[/img] With several genes (above, below), gaoler males have an eye that may appear to fall off the arm: [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=138&bodygene=0&breed=17&element=5&eyetype=5&gender=0&tert=44&tertgene=34&winggene=0&wings=138&auth=da52d05b8acbc8e1a428386090b7e118146bea68&dummyext=prev.png[/img] And ymmv on skeletal, porcupine, plumage: [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=122&bodygene=0&breed=18&element=5&eyetype=5&gender=0&tert=139&tertgene=45&winggene=0&wings=122&auth=f659fec6672b9f0176178e4f6d4413f2ab92f7cc&dummyext=prev.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=122&bodygene=0&breed=18&element=5&eyetype=5&gender=1&tert=139&tertgene=45&winggene=0&wings=122&auth=e0463a1b1fe1fd6815adbe4553ff6caa97c03cd2&dummyext=prev.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=95&bodygene=0&breed=18&element=5&eyetype=5&gender=1&tert=152&tertgene=49&winggene=0&wings=95&auth=8f46fc7f86964af12cae464beca1ff8567285a22&dummyext=prev.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=95&bodygene=0&breed=18&element=5&eyetype=5&gender=0&tert=152&tertgene=49&winggene=0&wings=95&auth=e7fdabeeee0a6cc6fadadab0638462d363fb22ca&dummyext=prev.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=162&bodygene=0&breed=18&element=5&eyetype=5&gender=0&tert=51&tertgene=51&winggene=0&wings=162&auth=fca4e8d0540bf2965fc0dbec34ef3b0ac0a7683b&dummyext=prev.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=162&bodygene=0&breed=18&element=5&eyetype=5&gender=1&tert=51&tertgene=51&winggene=0&wings=162&auth=c0aed3e5539c3ad9c596b226b61dd53e4eb7883b&dummyext=prev.png[/img] I think the gaoler fans are the most truly problematic of all of these. The rest could be ignored, although ymmv.
*Lairs now support 20 tabs (up from 15). Tabs 16-20 cost 50,000 treasure each.

I know that period looks strange, but several of my English teachers have insisted it is the correct style... not that I blame you if you'd rather keep it as-is though

ETA: RE: the above post, multi eyes do that on male Bane tails too

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& FWIW I think the new metallic & alloy look lovely... although, it looks like there's a little fan/multigaze overlap on the torso/hip of female banes (and male banes, above):

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Male gaolers haven't escaped it either, and I think the eyes on the tail mess up the perspective a bit:
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And now that I'm trying to break things, I notice that some of the flowers in Blossom also fall under the eyes a little bit:
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Shardflank:
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With several genes (above, below), gaoler males have an eye that may appear to fall off the arm:
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And ymmv on skeletal, porcupine, plumage:
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I think the gaoler fans are the most truly problematic of all of these. The rest could be ignored, although ymmv.
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[quote]I think the gaoler fans are the most truly problematic of all of these. The rest could be ignored[/quote] Ehhhhh, that female bane's plumage with multi is pretty bad!! My biggest problem with Gaoler fans is that I ACCIDENTALLY BOUGHT ONE when I had finally earned the gems to get one for my banescales, and was looking forward to finishing that project! [s] So it's in the AH where I hope to recoup the price paid so [/s]I can roll it into the scroll I really wanted! *unloaded, PHEW!
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I think the gaoler fans are the most truly problematic of all of these. The rest could be ignored

Ehhhhh, that female bane's plumage with multi is pretty bad!!


My biggest problem with Gaoler fans is that I ACCIDENTALLY BOUGHT ONE when I had finally earned the gems to get one for my banescales, and was looking forward to finishing that project! So it's in the AH where I hope to recoup the price paid so I can roll it into the scroll I really wanted! *unloaded, PHEW!
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Oh, cool
Oh, cool
Just gonna say- really happy for the underbelly. Could care less about Fans though.
Fans feel like a gene that was meant to be Bane exclusive. I mean, they have the spiney ridges for a reason. They just dont fit with Gaolers.

Also yeah, those multi clippings are bad. They ought to fix that especially since there's no hiding that with apparel.
Just gonna say- really happy for the underbelly. Could care less about Fans though.
Fans feel like a gene that was meant to be Bane exclusive. I mean, they have the spiney ridges for a reason. They just dont fit with Gaolers.

Also yeah, those multi clippings are bad. They ought to fix that especially since there's no hiding that with apparel.
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I am pretty unhappy with the update of metallic.. Thankfully the ONE Banescale I have didn't change too much (being white and already light in color) but it drastically dulled her down still. I still love her but I wondered when I came back from vacation why she didn't look as vibrant. [url=https://flightrising.com/main.php?dragon=58035642] [img]https://flightrising.com/rendern/350/580357/58035642_350.png[/img] [/url] Also, really upset about another dragon I planned to gene with metallic as he would have looked much more golden before, and now his scries are more orangey.. Still look better than his other options, butI really really liked his scry with the much lighter coloration as now i don't know what the heck to do with him and don't know if I want to waste gems on getting metallic for him now. -_- [url=https://flightrising.com/main.php?dragon=57347996] [img]https://flightrising.com/rendern/350/573480/57347996_350.png[/img] [/url] Was originally looking like a metallic version of this light, golden color. Now his scry looks like... [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=128&bodygene=49&breed=18&element=2&eyetype=1&gender=0&tert=121&tertgene=48&winggene=43&wings=71&auth=ac8d80071ee259e640aa9084e7d50d79b1ab2717&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Still, not terrible, but definitely not as good as it once was going to be... Woulda been nice to know this was an error in the first place. I sure had no idea this was even 'broken' until I was sitting here trying to investigate this change of shade and wondering if I am just losing my mind and remembering the gene incorrectly or not.. >< Also, a little sad on squiggle as I really liked the tan in Zeno's horns, which are now a light purple. It does look good and is growing on me, but its not the color I had liked and wanted when I gened him so its really throwing me right now. [url=https://flightrising.com/main.php?dragon=57383752] [img]https://flightrising.com/rendern/350/573838/57383752_350.png[/img] [/url] Sorry, I don't have the original pictures for comparison as I never figured they would have changed in the first place... >>
I am pretty unhappy with the update of metallic.. Thankfully the ONE Banescale I have didn't change too much (being white and already light in color) but it drastically dulled her down still. I still love her but I wondered when I came back from vacation why she didn't look as vibrant.


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Also, really upset about another dragon I planned to gene with metallic as he would have looked much more golden before, and now his scries are more orangey.. Still look better than his other options, butI really really liked his scry with the much lighter coloration as now i don't know what the heck to do with him and don't know if I want to waste gems on getting metallic for him now. -_-


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Was originally looking like a metallic version of this light, golden color. Now his scry looks like...

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Still, not terrible, but definitely not as good as it once was going to be...

Woulda been nice to know this was an error in the first place. I sure had no idea this was even 'broken' until I was sitting here trying to investigate this change of shade and wondering if I am just losing my mind and remembering the gene incorrectly or not.. ><

Also, a little sad on squiggle as I really liked the tan in Zeno's horns, which are now a light purple. It does look good and is growing on me, but its not the color I had liked and wanted when I gened him so its really throwing me right now.


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Sorry, I don't have the original pictures for comparison as I never figured they would have changed in the first place... >>
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