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[quote name="MsBarrows" date="2018-07-10 15:28:24" ] Underbelly would be a really useful tert if it wasn't so flat compared to what the default belly pattern looks like. I'd really love to see some variations on it, like: [LIST] [*]you could have one called bellyrub that was a gradient stain limited to the belly area, fading out on the upper neck so that things like the skink primary's highlight or some of the belly patterning of ripple, wasp, or pinstripe still showed through there [img]https://78.media.tumblr.com/c957eec29beafaa4f8cbba40f2bcc4a5/tumblr_pbo8lakB9l1tddvg0o4_400.png[/img] [*]a countershading tert that was opague on the belly areas and then faded out over the underlying primary pattern. [img]https://78.media.tumblr.com/4bdbaf56d783122b1510d1b10d2b6d03/tumblr_pbo8lakB9l1tddvg0o2_400.png[/img] [*]there are several great primary/secondary pairs that do absolutely nothing pattern-wise to the belly area - add some coordinating underbelly-area terts that have related patterning [img]https://78.media.tumblr.com/d5c3734160efc835fc69294cc8e1a0a7/tumblr_pbo8lakB9l1tddvg0o3_400.png[/img] [*]do things like smaller belly scales, belly scale patterns, etc. that are tert-based [img]https://78.media.tumblr.com/ffbe70873148b9027c9c650be8ad0154/tumblr_pbo8lakB9l1tddvg0o1_400.png[/img] [/LIST] Just... some less-boring underbelly options, basically, since countershading is a wonderful look on many dragons. [/quote] support, especially for the countershading!!!!
MsBarrows wrote on 2018-07-10 15:28:24:
Underbelly would be a really useful tert if it wasn't so flat compared to what the default belly pattern looks like. I'd really love to see some variations on it, like:
  • you could have one called bellyrub that was a gradient stain limited to the belly area, fading out on the upper neck so that things like the skink primary's highlight or some of the belly patterning of ripple, wasp, or pinstripe still showed through there
    tumblr_pbo8lakB9l1tddvg0o4_400.png
  • a countershading tert that was opague on the belly areas and then faded out over the underlying primary pattern.
    tumblr_pbo8lakB9l1tddvg0o2_400.png
  • there are several great primary/secondary pairs that do absolutely nothing pattern-wise to the belly area - add some coordinating underbelly-area terts that have related patterning
    tumblr_pbo8lakB9l1tddvg0o3_400.png
  • do things like smaller belly scales, belly scale patterns, etc. that are tert-based
    tumblr_pbo8lakB9l1tddvg0o1_400.png

Just... some less-boring underbelly options, basically, since countershading is a wonderful look on many dragons.
support, especially for the countershading!!!!
[quote name="Laluzi" date="2018-06-03 11:42:42" ] Firefly got me thinking of uses for bad tertiaries, and I had an idea that's a bit... niche. But potentially extremely useful. I was looking at all my earlier dragons with poor tertiaries that I couldn't use, and in about 80% of those cases, the dragon would have looked excellent with a tertiary color exactly opposite of what it had. And then I was thinking of how newer genes use tertiary/quarternary colors that are often unrelated to the color itself, like chocolate having aqua accents or orca having lime green. So my idea: Negative. Puts some kind of pattern on the dragon, maybe stripes or a nice brindle on the side, or an organic-looking lattice. But the pattern isn't important. It could be anything. The point of the gene is that whatever accent appears on the dragon, it does so in the photo negative of the dragon's tertiary. So a robin tertiary would become a very dark brownish-red, abyss would become a very pale orange, and banana would become a rich purple. It takes the tertiary color and flips it in hue and brightness (but not saturation.) The only color-wheel color that would appear as-is is gray. I'm not sure how such a gene would be accepted, though - if people would see it as 'cheating', in a sense. It would be a difficult one to use in breeding. But it would save a lot of progens and other such dragons with wildly clashing terts, and it's not like it lets you slap any tertiary color onto a dragon - just the exact opposite of what it has. [/quote] Hold up, this goes PERFECT with the countershading suggestion! It could be an underbelly gene but with soft blended edges that also inverts the color! That way the name is both a reference to the natural pattern and a play on words.
Laluzi wrote on 2018-06-03 11:42:42:
Firefly got me thinking of uses for bad tertiaries, and I had an idea that's a bit... niche. But potentially extremely useful. I was looking at all my earlier dragons with poor tertiaries that I couldn't use, and in about 80% of those cases, the dragon would have looked excellent with a tertiary color exactly opposite of what it had. And then I was thinking of how newer genes use tertiary/quarternary colors that are often unrelated to the color itself, like chocolate having aqua accents or orca having lime green.

So my idea: Negative. Puts some kind of pattern on the dragon, maybe stripes or a nice brindle on the side, or an organic-looking lattice. But the pattern isn't important. It could be anything. The point of the gene is that whatever accent appears on the dragon, it does so in the photo negative of the dragon's tertiary. So a robin tertiary would become a very dark brownish-red, abyss would become a very pale orange, and banana would become a rich purple. It takes the tertiary color and flips it in hue and brightness (but not saturation.) The only color-wheel color that would appear as-is is gray.

I'm not sure how such a gene would be accepted, though - if people would see it as 'cheating', in a sense. It would be a difficult one to use in breeding. But it would save a lot of progens and other such dragons with wildly clashing terts, and it's not like it lets you slap any tertiary color onto a dragon - just the exact opposite of what it has.

Hold up, this goes PERFECT with the countershading suggestion!

It could be an underbelly gene but with soft blended edges that also inverts the color! That way the name is both a reference to the natural pattern and a play on words.
[quote name="Angel04" date="2018-08-05 17:13:06" ] [quote name="Kitanya" date="2018-08-01 13:03:49" ] [quote name="Lichtdrache" date="2018-01-29 05:24:16" ] This is my absolute favourite. Imagine all the possibilities. I'm curious to see how this would look with darker colors, do they get multiplied as well? [quote name="AlpineHell" date=2016-08-30 16:39:14] I'd love to see a nice tert that behaves like stained but has the high color changing effect of iridescent and the shimmering lighting like glimmer. It would be called [b]Prismatic[/b]. Jade Basic // Shadow Basic // Pearl Prismatic [img]http://68.media.tumblr.com/3f233a7862ec67ee7ccfcfaf9d04d95d/tumblr_ocfpdsSzit1r25puwo1_1280.png[/img] Orange Skink // Marigold Saturn // Pumpkin Prismatic [img]http://68.media.tumblr.com/f8d9c0c2efa0600efc822cca07d215a5/tumblr_ocqvyn3Eqw1r25puwo1_1280.png[/img] [/quote] [/quote] THIS OMG [/quote] Support [/quote] I can just express how much YEP this idea gets from me? [img]http://yepbillings.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/YEP-Star-Logo.png[/img] Thanks! [size=1] don't quote this post because pyramid quoting
Angel04 wrote on 2018-08-05 17:13:06:
Kitanya wrote on 2018-08-01 13:03:49:
Lichtdrache wrote on 2018-01-29 05:24:16:
This is my absolute favourite. Imagine all the possibilities. I'm curious to see how this would look with darker colors, do they get multiplied as well?

AlpineHell wrote on 2016-08-30:
I'd love to see a nice tert that behaves like stained but has the high color changing effect of iridescent and the shimmering lighting like glimmer.

It would be called Prismatic.

Jade Basic // Shadow Basic // Pearl Prismatic
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Orange Skink // Marigold Saturn // Pumpkin Prismatic
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THIS OMG
Support

I can just express how much YEP this idea gets from me?

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Thanks!
don't quote this post because pyramid quoting
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How about Pixel, an idea I've had for a while, as a tertiary gene? The tertiary color would manifest in a pixelated pattern around specific areas of the dragon's body. It would be similar to Opal, but pixels instead of shiny gemstone. Perhaps it would be a Baldwin gene, since it would be a very unnatural marking?
How about Pixel, an idea I've had for a while, as a tertiary gene? The tertiary color would manifest in a pixelated pattern around specific areas of the dragon's body. It would be similar to Opal, but pixels instead of shiny gemstone. Perhaps it would be a Baldwin gene, since it would be a very unnatural marking?
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[quote name="Jussie" date="2018-09-08 19:14:59" ] [img]https://i.imgur.com/kKOl7SD.png[/img] Ignore my awful cloud drawing skill lol Nebula or Cloud or Cumulus Semi transparent, would work well with various primaries and secondaries. [/quote] I’d love the cloud like patterns it actually seems pretty relaxing to have on a dragon as long as it’s semi transparent [quote name="AgCat" date="2018-05-29 00:35:31" ] This probably has been suggested before, but anyway: a droplet/dew tert that adds non-uniform droplets on the dragon. Here's a mockup I made with splash, copper, radioactive, orca, obsidian, white and red on white female feas: [img]https://orig00.deviantart.net/5e73/f/2018/148/0/3/fea_drop_demo_w_by_ag_cat-dccudql.png[/img] I used 5 layers for the droplet: a base color layer, a darker color layer to add some shadow and deep inside the droplet, a lighter color (or accent color, if that color has an accent like blue with copper) layer for highlight, a shine layer that's always in white, and a lineart layer. The opacity of the entire thing is slightly lowered to 80% to make the droplets looks a bit more natural. There's some quirks that need to be worked out, but the color looks mostly OK with that setup. I think this tert idea has the potential to look like many things from water to pearl to chocolate to oil to sickly swelling depends on the color. It'd work well with dragons of different aesthetics. [img]https://orig00.deviantart.net/c68f/f/2018/149/1/b/fea_drop_demo_co_by_ag_cat-dccujr8.png[/img] [img]https://i1.pickpik.com/photos/567/112/837/water-drops-leaf-fresh-preview.jpg[/img] [/quote] And THIS, this would be beautiful and small but hopefully large enough to see its artwork properly unlike firefly
Jussie wrote on 2018-09-08 19:14:59:
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Ignore my awful cloud drawing skill lol

Nebula or Cloud or Cumulus

Semi transparent, would work well with various primaries and secondaries.


I’d love the cloud like patterns it actually seems pretty relaxing to have on a dragon as long as it’s semi transparent
AgCat wrote on 2018-05-29 00:35:31:
This probably has been suggested before, but anyway: a droplet/dew tert that adds non-uniform droplets on the dragon. Here's a mockup I made with splash, copper, radioactive, orca, obsidian, white and red on white female feas:
fea_drop_demo_w_by_ag_cat-dccudql.png
I used 5 layers for the droplet: a base color layer, a darker color layer to add some shadow and deep inside the droplet, a lighter color (or accent color, if that color has an accent like blue with copper) layer for highlight, a shine layer that's always in white, and a lineart layer. The opacity of the entire thing is slightly lowered to 80% to make the droplets looks a bit more natural. There's some quirks that need to be worked out, but the color looks mostly OK with that setup.

I think this tert idea has the potential to look like many things from water to pearl to chocolate to oil to sickly swelling depends on the color. It'd work well with dragons of different aesthetics.
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And THIS, this would be beautiful and small but hopefully large enough to see its artwork properly unlike firefly
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I wish for something, anything, that is primarily on the wings instead of primarily on the body. We have several tertiaries that only affect the body portion of the dragon, but sometimes the body is already busy and the wings are where you want the extra pizzazz.
I wish for something, anything, that is primarily on the wings instead of primarily on the body. We have several tertiaries that only affect the body portion of the dragon, but sometimes the body is already busy and the wings are where you want the extra pizzazz.
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[quote name="Taarnfalk" date="2018-09-11 12:45:48" ] [quote name="ViceroyAdmiral" date="2018-08-08 14:02:41" ] [quote name="SaikiyoLuna" date="2017-10-13 00:32:17" ] A patchwork gene that's a little like a cross between stain and opal. Fun and quickly adds interest without being overwhelming. Probably a Baldwin gene [img]https://orig00.deviantart.net/f689/f/2017/286/f/f/all_2_by_saikiyo-dbqewr9.png[/img] (In order: Shadow, nightshade, honey, hickory) This seems very artificial, how would this work in lore and be inherited? Well it could work as a genetic skin condition where skin becomes thick, cracked and discolored, stitching is done to prevent infection by closing the cracks. [/quote] I WENT ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE SOURCE FOR THIS ONE!!!!!!!! Personally i think that it would be amazing to have a gene for every elemental holiday for at least one year (to increase the rarity (and maybe make the price 100 or 120 of the corresponding elemental currency) so like this one could be used as the Plague Holidays gene now we just need 10 more! XD [/quote] This would make a wonderful brew gene. I would need a ton of that gene! ! [/quote] I would love this so much omg. If this went into effect I would totally get it!
Taarnfalk wrote on 2018-09-11 12:45:48:
ViceroyAdmiral wrote on 2018-08-08 14:02:41:
SaikiyoLuna wrote on 2017-10-13 00:32:17:
A patchwork gene that's a little like a cross between stain and opal. Fun and quickly adds interest without being overwhelming. Probably a Baldwin gene

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(In order: Shadow, nightshade, honey, hickory)

This seems very artificial, how would this work in lore and be inherited? Well it could work as a genetic skin condition where skin becomes thick, cracked and discolored, stitching is done to prevent infection by closing the cracks.
I WENT ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE SOURCE FOR THIS ONE!!!!!!!!
Personally i think that it would be amazing to have a gene for every elemental holiday for at least one year (to increase the rarity (and maybe make the price 100 or 120 of the corresponding elemental currency) so like this one could be used as the Plague Holidays gene now we just need 10 more! XD
This would make a wonderful brew gene. I would need a ton of that gene! !

I would love this so much omg. If this went into effect I would totally get it!
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[quote name="Desnik" date="2018-01-24 14:09:32" ] [b]Cabochon[/b] This is my attempt to create a gene that can save a bad tert color. It'll break the lineart a little bit but ehhhh! Let's give our skin/accent designers more grief, why don't we! :) It's chief characteristic is the presence of 8 round cabochons, one on each wrist, ankle, chest, wing wrist, and forehead. Its secondary characteristic is to turn certain keratinous elements into shiny gemstone (such as beaks, nails, and spikes). These keratinous elements are unique to the dragon breed involved. On a chunky breed with big nails and spikes, Cabochon looks like this: [img]https://i.imgur.com/9n0tUKk.png[/img] On a more delicate breed where the nails aren't as obvious, the gemstone texture extends over the fingertip: [img]https://i.imgur.com/BTRZG1D.png[/img] Coloration, Cabochon would look like this for most colors and the prim/secondary colors would shine through: [img]https://i.imgur.com/AdJcjhB.png[/img] For colors with accents, Cabochon would look like this, with accent colors dusting the tops of each cabochon: [img]https://i.imgur.com/CxikEcs.png[/img] [/quote] I like this a lot but wouldn't put the ones on the wings!! And maybe have cabochons on the eye corners instead of the forehead? It's super pretty tho and could really save bad terts as you said! Love that it uses accent colors, we need terts with that.
Desnik wrote on 2018-01-24 14:09:32:
Cabochon
This is my attempt to create a gene that can save a bad tert color. It'll break the lineart a little bit but ehhhh! Let's give our skin/accent designers more grief, why don't we! :)

It's chief characteristic is the presence of 8 round cabochons, one on each wrist, ankle, chest, wing wrist, and forehead. Its secondary characteristic is to turn certain keratinous elements into shiny gemstone (such as beaks, nails, and spikes). These keratinous elements are unique to the dragon breed involved.

On a chunky breed with big nails and spikes, Cabochon looks like this:
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On a more delicate breed where the nails aren't as obvious, the gemstone texture extends over the fingertip:
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Coloration, Cabochon would look like this for most colors and the prim/secondary colors would shine through:
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For colors with accents, Cabochon would look like this, with accent colors dusting the tops of each cabochon:
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I like this a lot but wouldn't put the ones on the wings!! And maybe have cabochons on the eye corners instead of the forehead? It's super pretty tho and could really save bad terts as you said! Love that it uses accent colors, we need terts with that.
[quote name="Mystiek" date="2018-09-02 16:00:46" ] [quote name="Jadepillar" date="2018-09-02 13:28:02" ] I know we'll be getting Constellation as the Starmap secondary, but what about a tert to go with em? Because I have a [i]desperate need.[/i] Working name: Nebula. A very quick and very rough picture of what I have in mind-- [center][img]https://i.imgur.com/ejUeBcu.png[/img][/center] [/quote] This makes a lot of sense but we don’t really have and matching primary-secondary-tertiary sets yet so who knows [/quote] I love this idea and have wanted a straight gene set since I joined. It improves on the major issues I have with crackle (too much) and smirch (lopsided).
Mystiek wrote on 2018-09-02 16:00:46:
Jadepillar wrote on 2018-09-02 13:28:02:
I know we'll be getting Constellation as the Starmap secondary, but what about a tert to go with em? Because I have a desperate need.
Working name: Nebula. A very quick and very rough picture of what I have in mind--
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This makes a lot of sense but we don’t really have and matching primary-secondary-tertiary sets yet so who knows
I love this idea and have wanted a straight gene set since I joined.
It improves on the major issues I have with crackle (too much) and smirch (lopsided).
[quote name="Kaio" date="2018-09-05 12:36:49" ] [quote name="Lalisa" date="2018-05-25 20:01:23" ] Hi, I also have an idea for a bio-luminescent gene: [b] http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2443699[/b] Check this forum for support. [img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/395124397695959042/449705011086229514/skydancer_f_dragon.png[/img] [img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/395124397695959042/449705035014864906/skin_bogsneak_f_dragon.png[/img] [img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/395124397695959042/449705050235731979/skin_pearlcatcher_m_dragon.png[/img] It's very very light colour biased, but the idea would be: [LIST] [*] 1. Patches on the flank, the base of the tail, and shoulders or neck, smaller patches on the wing-tips if necessary for design balancing [*] 2. If there's an underbelly on the dragon, the lower part where the under-tail is would be coloured, like a firefly - if not, the lack of colour could be compensated in other areas [*] 3. Highlight on the breed traits (Imperial and Pearlcatcher whiskers, Bogsneak pads, Guardian horns, Coatl... circle horn things, Tundra horns, etc) [*] 4. A gentle aura over all Tertiary coloured patches as well as any accessory frills, fur, or feathers (elbow fur, etc) [*] 5. Particles over the auras [/LIST] It sounds complicated like that but it's what I did for the rough pictures above. I believe that it would look nice with current Primary and Secondary genes and not blot out any notable designs nor be too overpowering. While colour might be a little difficult (as well as figuring out how I'd highlight a Nocturne Female tail,) this would be a good idea. [/quote] i want dis i wannit so bad [/quote] Sooo pretty! I’m all in for glowing dergs. It would look cool with glowing eyes!
Kaio wrote on 2018-09-05 12:36:49:
Lalisa wrote on 2018-05-25 20:01:23:
Hi, I also have an idea for a bio-luminescent gene:


http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2443699
Check this forum for support.

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It's very very light colour biased, but the idea would be:
  • 1. Patches on the flank, the base of the tail, and shoulders or neck, smaller patches on the wing-tips if necessary for design balancing
  • 2. If there's an underbelly on the dragon, the lower part where the under-tail is would be coloured, like a firefly - if not, the lack of colour could be compensated in other areas
  • 3. Highlight on the breed traits (Imperial and Pearlcatcher whiskers, Bogsneak pads, Guardian horns, Coatl... circle horn things, Tundra horns, etc)
  • 4. A gentle aura over all Tertiary coloured patches as well as any accessory frills, fur, or feathers (elbow fur, etc)
  • 5. Particles over the auras

It sounds complicated like that but it's what I did for the rough pictures above.

I believe that it would look nice with current Primary and Secondary genes and not blot out any notable designs nor be too overpowering. While colour might be a little difficult (as well as figuring out how I'd highlight a Nocturne Female tail,) this would be a good idea.

i want dis

i wannit so bad

Sooo pretty! I’m all in for glowing dergs. It would look cool with glowing eyes!
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