I hatched my first Primal-eyed dragon relatively recently. I remember I didn't even react, because there was no reason to get excited. It was a fodder dragon. Mediocre colors, unflattering genes, and Primal eyes that didn't match or complement in any way. And because of the way things are set up, that's really all I can hope for. Breeding-exclusive eyes aren't fun. They're not exciting. They're not special. They're just a massive disappointment.
And yeah, I'm not pleased with the fact that breeding projects are exponentially more difficult because of this. I like doing breeding projects, and I'm extremely picky about colors, so the eyes are very important to me. But I have no reliable way of getting the eyes that I need, because it's completely uninfluenced random chance and the odds are beyond ghastly. I'm not even looking for Primals or Multigazes - I'm just aiming for Rare eyes, and it's still virtually impossible to get them on the right dragon. I'll say it again: this is not fun.
Eye types are worthless without a way to get them on dragons that would look good with them. Individual eye type vials, or cycled scattervials, either would be fine with me. I just want to be able to customize my dragons like I signed up to do.
I hatched my first Primal-eyed dragon relatively recently. I remember I didn't even react, because there was no reason to get excited. It was a fodder dragon. Mediocre colors, unflattering genes, and Primal eyes that didn't match or complement in any way. And because of the way things are set up, that's really all I can hope for. Breeding-exclusive eyes aren't fun. They're not exciting. They're not special. They're just a massive disappointment.
And yeah, I'm not pleased with the fact that breeding projects are exponentially more difficult because of this. I like doing breeding projects, and I'm extremely picky about colors, so the eyes are very important to me. But I have no reliable way of getting the eyes that I need, because it's completely uninfluenced random chance and the odds are beyond ghastly. I'm not even looking for Primals or Multigazes - I'm just aiming for Rare eyes, and it's still virtually impossible to get them on the right dragon. I'll say it again: this is not fun.
Eye types are worthless without a way to get them on dragons that would look good with them. Individual eye type vials, or cycled scattervials, either would be fine with me. I just want to be able to customize my dragons like I signed up to do.
I support this, I have a couple dragon goals that need special eyes that I can't get without breeding for them :/ which stinks because the chances to get those eyes get really thin. and I dont want like 3 breeding pairs taking up lair space when it could take months to even get those eyes! for example: i have two perma babies that need primal arcane eyes, i L o v e them with primal but due to me being ice and primal takes ages to get they are just rotting in my hibernate den because thats not fun for me to do, its time consuming and annoying to go through. I also have a dragon that i've been breeding for and trying to get the the right colors for which is 0.65% chance at happening AND on top of that they need primal :/ i just want my pretty baby so i can be happy not upset due to me not being able to get them. I also had to change my eye plans due to the fact it was too pricey and would take to long to get. It stinks and i wish they would just give us vials or bring back the retired eye item and give it more options to come out.
I rather spend time grinding for vials then getting stressed trying to figure out breeding stats and trying to ask people if they can host a nest for me.
It's all so frustrating when the game is suppose to be fun and creative when you struggle to even get to those creative things you want to achieve.
I support this, I have a couple dragon goals that need special eyes that I can't get without breeding for them :/ which stinks because the chances to get those eyes get really thin. and I dont want like 3 breeding pairs taking up lair space when it could take months to even get those eyes! for example: i have two perma babies that need primal arcane eyes, i L o v e them with primal but due to me being ice and primal takes ages to get they are just rotting in my hibernate den because thats not fun for me to do, its time consuming and annoying to go through. I also have a dragon that i've been breeding for and trying to get the the right colors for which is 0.65% chance at happening AND on top of that they need primal :/ i just want my pretty baby so i can be happy not upset due to me not being able to get them. I also had to change my eye plans due to the fact it was too pricey and would take to long to get. It stinks and i wish they would just give us vials or bring back the retired eye item and give it more options to come out.
I rather spend time grinding for vials then getting stressed trying to figure out breeding stats and trying to ask people if they can host a nest for me.
It's all so frustrating when the game is suppose to be fun and creative when you struggle to even get to those creative things you want to achieve.
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Just hatched my first ever Primal out of a breeding project nest and of course the dragon is discardable. I bred dragons like maybe 5 times so far and I already got a Primal, but I can assure you that when I try to breed the correct dragon, then I won't be seeing Primal at all. Does the Staff see how ridiculous this current system is? What am I supposed to do with this Primal hatchling now? I most certainly am not gonna keep them.
Edit: LMAO NEVER MIND, I just checked the colours more thoroughly and the primary is 1-off from being Shadow and the secondary is 1-off from being Spring plus the tert is correct. I'm still not gonna keep them but this is good
Just hatched my first ever Primal out of a breeding project nest and of course the dragon is discardable. I bred dragons like maybe 5 times so far and I already got a Primal, but I can assure you that when I try to breed the correct dragon, then I won't be seeing Primal at all. Does the Staff see how ridiculous this current system is? What am I supposed to do with this Primal hatchling now? I most certainly am not gonna keep them.
Edit: LMAO NEVER MIND, I just checked the colours more thoroughly and the primary is 1-off from being Shadow and the secondary is 1-off from being Spring plus the tert is correct. I'm still not gonna keep them but this is good
I mentioned my first Goat eyed dragon a post or two ago. I've still had it listed this whole time just barely above fodder prices. It's an XYX to boot although it's flight element doesn't match its color range. And it's been ready to breed for well over a week now. Yet it won't sell. A "special" eyed XYX RTB dragon won't even sell for marginally above fodder. I might as well just exalt it myself and cut my losses from feeding it.
Nothing about that entire set up (brought on by this entire system) has been special for me. No thrill, no pride. And clearly I'm not the only one since there's no buyers either.
If the true purpose of the eye update is to invoke positive emotions rooted in "specialness," individual eye vials will not take that away. At all. Individual vials will give players a sense of accomplishment and pride in their existing dragons without taking away from the surprise that comes from random eye hatches.
I mentioned my first Goat eyed dragon a post or two ago. I've still had it listed this whole time just barely above fodder prices. It's an XYX to boot although it's flight element doesn't match its color range. And it's been ready to breed for well over a week now. Yet it won't sell. A "special" eyed XYX RTB dragon won't even sell for marginally above fodder. I might as well just exalt it myself and cut my losses from feeding it.
Nothing about that entire set up (brought on by this entire system) has been special for me. No thrill, no pride. And clearly I'm not the only one since there's no buyers either.
If the true purpose of the eye update is to invoke positive emotions rooted in "specialness," individual eye vials will not take that away. At all. Individual vials will give players a sense of accomplishment and pride in their existing dragons without taking away from the surprise that comes from random eye hatches.
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If writers are supposed to "show not tell," why are we called "storytellers" and not "storyshow-ers"?
I could see them sticking them in the Gem shop for 350FD like scatterscrolls. They would still technically be going back on their word about re-releasing, but it wouldn't hurt anyone that already invested a lot of money buying/using the vials since that price range is still slightly above the current going range in the auction house. While it would still be annoying to fight rng going after the rarest eye types, at least the price on the vials would be capped.
I could see them sticking them in the Gem shop for 350FD like scatterscrolls. They would still technically be going back on their word about re-releasing, but it wouldn't hurt anyone that already invested a lot of money buying/using the vials since that price range is still slightly above the current going range in the auction house. While it would still be annoying to fight rng going after the rarest eye types, at least the price on the vials would be capped.
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I could see them sticking them in the Gem shop for 350FD like scatterscrolls. They would still technically be going back on their word about re-releasing, but it wouldn't hurt anyone that already invested a lot of money buying/using the vials since that price range is still slightly above the current going range in the auction house. While it would still be annoying to fight rng going after the rarest eye types, at least the price on the vials would be capped.
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[item=Vial of Glowing Sight] are 200g in the gem marketplace, and I think any other vials added should stay roughly that price - but if they put the special eyes (multi, primal) those could be 350, with goat and faceted at 250, and regular alt colors from common 150g?
I could see them sticking them in the Gem shop for 350FD like scatterscrolls. They would still technically be going back on their word about re-releasing, but it wouldn't hurt anyone that already invested a lot of money buying/using the vials since that price range is still slightly above the current going range in the auction house. While it would still be annoying to fight rng going after the rarest eye types, at least the price on the vials would be capped.
Vial of Glowing Sight
Specialty Items
Applies the unnatural eye type Glowing to one dragon. This item disappears when used.
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are 200g in the gem marketplace, and I think any other vials added should stay roughly that price - but if they put the special eyes (multi, primal) those could be 350, with goat and faceted at 250, and regular alt colors from common 150g?
Restating my support because this is the only issue I've seen that has had so many potential solutions presented for and none of them acted on. There was massive community outcry when the original release happened, but unlike most things on site, it has yet to die down which points to a more serious issue. I understand that its a bit of a tight spot but I think with the support the various fixes get and the general community attitude, enacting a fix would do more good than harm even with any backlash.
Restating my support because this is the only issue I've seen that has had so many potential solutions presented for and none of them acted on. There was massive community outcry when the original release happened, but unlike most things on site, it has yet to die down which points to a more serious issue. I understand that its a bit of a tight spot but I think with the support the various fixes get and the general community attitude, enacting a fix would do more good than harm even with any backlash.
Count me in - I'd really LOVE to change several of me dergs to eyes like Uncommon or Unusual (not to mention Primal for Ambassadors).
The very special-eye-system ruined some of my projects, so it would be nice if you could have ANY control about it...
Count me in - I'd really LOVE to change several of me dergs to eyes like Uncommon or Unusual (not to mention Primal for Ambassadors).
The very special-eye-system ruined some of my projects, so it would be nice if you could have ANY control about it...
much support! honestly, i think we should start a change.org petition or something. a year of no response or change from the staff? this is getting out of hand
much support! honestly, i think we should start a change.org petition or something. a year of no response or change from the staff? this is getting out of hand
[quote name="DragonFireBrenn" date="2019-05-16 08:02:56" ]
much support! honestly, i think we should start a change.org petition or something. a year of no response or change from the staff? this is getting out of hand
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It would be beautiful if there was a site-based poll made by the Staff themselves but since we haven't gotten even a word about anything on this topic, that's pretty much a thing for another universe. Non-site-based polls don't work because they're based on browsers as far as I know, and not accounts, so that wouldn't do much.
much support! honestly, i think we should start a change.org petition or something. a year of no response or change from the staff? this is getting out of hand
It would be beautiful if there was a site-based poll made by the Staff themselves but since we haven't gotten even a word about anything on this topic, that's pretty much a thing for another universe. Non-site-based polls don't work because they're based on browsers as far as I know, and not accounts, so that wouldn't do much.