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@raydelblau

If you ask for the festival items to be brewable that does include the ones that are retired - they are still festival items.

@raydelblau
Oops, I often forget pinging when I quote, sorry XD

I actually skimmed the announcement thread, and while older players were unhappy with the bears and asked to get rid of them/make them extremely rare, etc, there were quite a few players from 2017 and late 2016 that still wanted bears. As an old player, I do want the chances for old stuff to be minimized, as I have all of it, but since last NoN we've gained over 60k new accounts that don't have any bears unless they were bought or gifted. While not everyone collects familiars, it's still 1/6 of the existing accounts, and there will be even more by June - I do think that the bearpocalypse can and will be fixed eventually if the influx is low, and as a bonus item they'll have like 1% chance to appear (for any bear), which isn't that much :D

As for the skins... well, I'd love to be able to brew accents which would require melting some cheap skins for that, maybe they'll add the feature someday. But as of now... I ended up raffling mine in grab bags for 30kt, I couldn't sell them otherwise.

Honestly, nearly everything in JoxBox is cheap and mostly useless for older players, but it was made for newer players, so cycling things out might be upsetting for those who want a certain item and doesn't want to overpay for it. Idk. It's tricky, and seems impossible to make everyone happy as everyone wants different things from it.

@raydelblau

What is with the other retired festival items not from 2013 then? And wouldn't it be a lot better/simpler to just say all cycled items? Instead of "All festival items but not these and not this and not that either"?

[quote name="raydelblau" date=2017-11-21 11:05:27] *If there're some after 2013, just assume I forgot about them. [/quote] Ignoring the emblems which return each season: Everything from the 2013-2014 festival season is retired Everything except the bears from the 2014-2015 festival season is retired Everything except the crowns from the 2015-2016 festival season is retired Everything from the 2016-2017 and beyond festival seasons do not retire For some reason many players ignore or forget about the retired festival items that were not in the first cycle

[quote name="wittykitsune" date=2017-11-21 07:02:49] Like Dragonsage said it is going to be a bonus pool like skins. You're not paying 80kt for just a bear a bear will be a possible EXTRA along with whatever item you get and the coin. [quote name="Undel" date=2017-11-20 21:00:11] Thanks for your feedback guys. We talked it over with the team and we do see how paying 80K and receiving an item that's been oversaturated in return could be a bit upsetting. As such, we're gonna change the poll option for if we do Joxar. If we do Joxar, all of the bears will go into the bonus-chance pool like a skin. So if you get a bear from Joxar, it'll be in addition to a past holiday item or recolor, not instead of. Editing main post and poll now to reflect that. :) [/quote] [/quote] I do t understand why people seem to have skipped over this in the announcement. Bears will just be a rare bonus like skins- they won't be taking the place of the recolors/old items