[quote name="chespin" date=2015-07-05 11:30:09]
You're allowed to name your dragons before selling them and once they're not in your lair, they are no longer yours. You had an opportunity to make sure they weren't exalted unnamed and you did not take it. It's your responsibility, not the buyers
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This is exactly my view on it. -You- can name it before you sell it, the site doesn't need to take coding time to do it for you. No support.
You're allowed to name your dragons before selling them and once they're not in your lair, they are no longer yours. You had an opportunity to make sure they weren't exalted unnamed and you did not take it. It's your responsibility, not the buyers
This is exactly my view on it. -You- can name it before you sell it, the site doesn't need to take coding time to do it for you. No support.
No support for reasons already stated, mainly this one:
[quote name="chespin" date=2015-07-05 11:30:09]
You're allowed to name your dragons before selling them and once they're not in your lair, they are no longer yours. You had an opportunity to make sure they weren't exalted unnamed and you did not take it. It's your responsibility, not the buyers
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No support for reasons already stated, mainly this one:
chespin wrote on 2015-07-05:
You're allowed to name your dragons before selling them and once they're not in your lair, they are no longer yours. You had an opportunity to make sure they weren't exalted unnamed and you did not take it. It's your responsibility, not the buyers
[quote name="chespin" date=2015-07-05 11:30:09]
You're allowed to name your dragons before selling them and once they're not in your lair, they are no longer yours. You had an opportunity to make sure they weren't exalted unnamed and you did not take it. It's your responsibility, not the buyers
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You're allowed to name your dragons before selling them and once they're not in your lair, they are no longer yours. You had an opportunity to make sure they weren't exalted unnamed and you did not take it. It's your responsibility, not the buyers
[quote name="DragonSage" date=2015-07-05 11:42:47]
No support. My biggest issue with suggestions that prevent unnamed dragon thing is that once a player sells a dragon, they have no say on what the purchaser does with the dragon. If a seller does not like unnamed dragons on their dragons' offspring list, they should name the hatchlings before they sell them and not expect the purchaser to do so or suggest the game be changed to force names upon dragons. Once a dragon is sold the seller has no say on what is done with that dragon; if unnamed dragons bother them, it is their responsibility to name the dragons before selling them. There have been several polls that have shown that most players aren't bothered by a pre-named dragon
Players exalt dragons unnamed for a variety of reasons.
--To differentiate exalted dragons from existing dragons on an offspring list. (IE they exalt their hatchlings unnamed; if they sell they generally get a name so its easy to tell at a glance who it is worth checking up on to see what that dragon has been up to)
--Some exalters prefer to exalt unnamed to avoid 'potentially harassing names' (IE the Mulch mess)
--Some exalters don't care if the dragon is named or not but don't want dragons automatically named when they exalt because it will slow them down (the system will have to update the name field and mark the dragon as exalted) when compared to pre-named dragons.
----If unnamed dragons were given a default name upon exalting (rather than a randomized name), it still wouldn't solve the issue for many of the players who have an issue with unnamed dragons (which generally is its 'ugly' or complaing about having multiple of the same name on the list); these players would likely feel the same about a 'default' name.
--Some players exalt dragons for story reasons:
----Unnamed hatchlings may have been ones that died as a hatchling
----Unnamed dragons may not have earned a name
----Unnamed dragons essentially do not exist in their story/head canon for certain pairs perhaps because they are trying to breed certain offspring and any that are not to the right characteristics are exalted unnamed
----Unnamed can mean something completely different from Nameless. Unnamed suggests the dragon never got or earned a name while Nameless suggests they do not deserve a name/lost their name for some reason.
Suggestions like this essentially state that the breeder is more important than the buyer (since the argument tends to be that the unnnamed exalted offspring appear on the parents' page) which is incorrect since when you buy a dragon; you buy all rights to that dragon including the name or lack there of. The breeder seller has already been compensated for the dragon as they got the sales price they asked for. The exalter may have reasons for exalting unnamed (for example the dragon they exalted unnamed may have been used for a breeding project where they wanted unnamed parents or the dragon exalted unnamed may be referenced in their active clan members' profiles) and it is their right to be able to leave the dragon they exalted unnamed because it is their dragon.
Dragons that are exalted are still tied to the account that exalted them (if you move flights all the dragons you exalted move with you) thus technically the owner of the dragon is the player who exalted them since they are still tied to that account.
The admins are working on a way to collapse exalted offspring so that they do not have to be visible if a player doesn't want to see them
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No support. My biggest issue with suggestions that prevent unnamed dragon thing is that once a player sells a dragon, they have no say on what the purchaser does with the dragon. If a seller does not like unnamed dragons on their dragons' offspring list, they should name the hatchlings before they sell them and not expect the purchaser to do so or suggest the game be changed to force names upon dragons. Once a dragon is sold the seller has no say on what is done with that dragon; if unnamed dragons bother them, it is their responsibility to name the dragons before selling them. There have been several polls that have shown that most players aren't bothered by a pre-named dragon
Players exalt dragons unnamed for a variety of reasons.
--To differentiate exalted dragons from existing dragons on an offspring list. (IE they exalt their hatchlings unnamed; if they sell they generally get a name so its easy to tell at a glance who it is worth checking up on to see what that dragon has been up to)
--Some exalters prefer to exalt unnamed to avoid 'potentially harassing names' (IE the Mulch mess)
--Some exalters don't care if the dragon is named or not but don't want dragons automatically named when they exalt because it will slow them down (the system will have to update the name field and mark the dragon as exalted) when compared to pre-named dragons.
----If unnamed dragons were given a default name upon exalting (rather than a randomized name), it still wouldn't solve the issue for many of the players who have an issue with unnamed dragons (which generally is its 'ugly' or complaing about having multiple of the same name on the list); these players would likely feel the same about a 'default' name.
--Some players exalt dragons for story reasons:
----Unnamed hatchlings may have been ones that died as a hatchling
----Unnamed dragons may not have earned a name
----Unnamed dragons essentially do not exist in their story/head canon for certain pairs perhaps because they are trying to breed certain offspring and any that are not to the right characteristics are exalted unnamed
----Unnamed can mean something completely different from Nameless. Unnamed suggests the dragon never got or earned a name while Nameless suggests they do not deserve a name/lost their name for some reason.
Suggestions like this essentially state that the breeder is more important than the buyer (since the argument tends to be that the unnnamed exalted offspring appear on the parents' page) which is incorrect since when you buy a dragon; you buy all rights to that dragon including the name or lack there of. The breeder seller has already been compensated for the dragon as they got the sales price they asked for. The exalter may have reasons for exalting unnamed (for example the dragon they exalted unnamed may have been used for a breeding project where they wanted unnamed parents or the dragon exalted unnamed may be referenced in their active clan members' profiles) and it is their right to be able to leave the dragon they exalted unnamed because it is their dragon.
Dragons that are exalted are still tied to the account that exalted them (if you move flights all the dragons you exalted move with you) thus technically the owner of the dragon is the player who exalted them since they are still tied to that account.
The admins are working on a way to collapse exalted offspring so that they do not have to be visible if a player doesn't want to see them
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[quote name="chespin" date=2015-07-05 11:30:09]
You're allowed to name your dragons before selling them and once they're not in your lair, they are no longer yours. You had an opportunity to make sure they weren't exalted unnamed and you did not take it. It's your responsibility, not the buyers
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So much this.
You're allowed to name your dragons before selling them and once they're not in your lair, they are no longer yours. You had an opportunity to make sure they weren't exalted unnamed and you did not take it. It's your responsibility, not the buyers
So much this.
No support. I use Unnamed to keep track of certain lineages (ie. any dragon with its first hatchling exalted Unnamed is a descendant of Desuto.... and so on.) I usually name all my hatchlings, so leaving a specific one Unnamed is the easiest and most instantly recognizable method I have to mark lineages. I don't even have to scroll down! I'd rather not lose this easy system.
No support. I use Unnamed to keep track of certain lineages (ie. any dragon with its first hatchling exalted Unnamed is a descendant of Desuto.... and so on.) I usually name all my hatchlings, so leaving a specific one Unnamed is the easiest and most instantly recognizable method I have to mark lineages. I don't even have to scroll down! I'd rather not lose this easy system.
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No support, because it's easier to mass-exalt hatchlings unnamed in the heat of a dominance push when every second counts. Naming would just slow it down far too much.
If you're tired of seeing your unnamed hatchlings get sold and exalted, then name them yourself before you sell them. It'll happen if you price any of your dragons below 10k, maybe even below 15k on a particularly crazy dominance fight.
No support, because it's easier to mass-exalt hatchlings unnamed in the heat of a dominance push when every second counts. Naming would just slow it down far too much.
If you're tired of seeing your unnamed hatchlings get sold and exalted, then name them yourself before you sell them. It'll happen if you price any of your dragons below 10k, maybe even below 15k on a particularly crazy dominance fight.
No support.
Name before you sell if it bothers you.
[quote name="chespin" date=2015-07-05 11:30:09]
You're allowed to name your dragons before selling them and once they're not in your lair, they are no longer yours. You had an opportunity to make sure they weren't exalted unnamed and you did not take it. It's your responsibility, not the buyers
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^This. Your rights to deciding the faith of a dragon are passed down to the new owner, and if their desire is to not name a dragon, it's not up to you nor anybody else.
I should also say that I have exalted my own dragons unnamed because it was on the cannon for a couple I had. I would hate it if I would have been obliged to name those.
You're allowed to name your dragons before selling them and once they're not in your lair, they are no longer yours. You had an opportunity to make sure they weren't exalted unnamed and you did not take it. It's your responsibility, not the buyers
^This. Your rights to deciding the faith of a dragon are passed down to the new owner, and if their desire is to not name a dragon, it's not up to you nor anybody else.
I should also say that I have exalted my own dragons unnamed because it was on the cannon for a couple I had. I would hate it if I would have been obliged to name those.
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