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[center][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/oummgrma2dntglw/earthtop.png[/img] [size=6][font=garamond][i]Progress update [img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/uau4yamn96qep5a/earthmid.png[/img][/center] [font=Garamond][size=4]Good afternoon everyone (or morning, evening or night for the other timezones) I hope everyone is staying safe with the extreme weather throughout the globe. While the temperatures aren't quite dangerous in the Netherlands, they sure are capable of uprooting our public transport system. :-/ It takes a bit of time adjusting to 'post-NotN' Flight Rising. I farmed so much during Night of the Nocturne, that I'm afraid I kind of burned myself out. The first two weeks I couldn't get myself into doing much more than just logging in to gather, feed, breed and bond. I wouldn't even be surprised if I missed a day or two. [center][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/uau4yamn96qep5a/earthmid.png[/img] [size=5][font=garamond][i]Auction House Sales[/i][/center] [center][img]https://imgur.com/9U5d1kr.png[/img][/center] [font=Garamond][size=4]I didn't sell all that much during January, but I also didn't have a lot to sell. The vast majority of these auctions are Wildclaw Scrolls. With them cycling in January 2018, I reckon most people expected them to cycle in last month as well. As a result priced dropped dramatically as everyone was trying to get theirs to sell before they cycled back in, and potential buyers became less and less likely to buy them, rather waiting for their return in the Gem MP. Despite that, I luckily managed to sell the majority of mine, although at a way lower price than I had originally wanted. I only have less than a dozen left now. which I will most likely sell this coming month. This will also mean that the time of mad proceeds in my ledger are over, sadly. But maybe new opportunities will arise. Although I reckon, with them being a Roundsey price this week, it might actually mean it will be another while before they cycle back in. And it seems people agree with me, as prices have shot up from 2,400g to 2,800g in a few days. Enough economics, when it comes to raw profits, I can't complain about last month, especially given the low amount of auctions sold and the general lack of activity on-site from my side. [center][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/uau4yamn96qep5a/earthmid.png[/img] [size=5][font=garamond][i]Coliseum spotlight[/i][/center] [font=Garamond][size=4]As said, with post-NotN blues, I couldn't really bring myself to spend a lot of time in the coliseum, or on the site in general. I guess for the time spent I did get lucky with my drops. [item=unhatched fire egg][item=ambush][item=searing jackalope crate][item=primary gene: python] [center][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/uau4yamn96qep5a/earthmid.png[/img] [size=5][font=garamond][i]Other activities[/i][/center] [font=Garamond][size=4]January felt like a good month to wrap up my raffle. It had been going on for half a year, and while I didn't reach my target ticket sales to break even safely, I didn't want to keep the entrants waiting any longer. The announcement of the end date did do wonders for ticket sales, and I sold over 1000 tickets the last week. That burst of ticket sales was enough to push me a lot closer to the break even point, so all in all I am very pleased with a successful raffle and a bunch of happy winners. While I love raffles, and will definitely host more in the future, I think at the moment I'm gonna take a small break from them. 1. Because I have no clue what to raffle off next, and 2. If a plethora of gem genes isn't enough to draw in a steady stream of entrants, I don't know what else will, and I don't want to be stuck with a raffle that isn't budging. (If you have any ideas for popular prizes I'm all ears. I've done eggs (Noc eggs, Bog eggs, all eggs) eliminate, genes, and gem genes before) Perhaps when (if ever) a new breed is released I might do a raffle for that. Such novelty usually does wonders for the popularity of a raffle and the speed of ticket sales. Anyways, onwards ... [center][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/uau4yamn96qep5a/earthmid.png[/img] [size=5][font=garamond][i]Updated totals[/i][/center] [size=4][font=garamond] On-hand currency: 70.6% (+ 2.1%)* Hoard value: 9.1% (- 2.2%)* Investments: 3.0.% (- 4.5%) Total: 82.7% (- 4.6%)* *While I generally try to be optimistic, I also need to be realistic. It has been a long while since the gem to treasure ratio was 1:800, and while I held on for a long time, I think a small miracle will need to happen for it to fall below 1:1000 again. Because of that I have now calculated my totals based on a 1:1000 rather than a 1:800 ratio. Sadly, because I have 174.5million treasure that is a difference of 43,625 gems (nearly 5.5%). Similarly for my hoard value being worth 73.5 million treasure, the difference as a result of the changed ratio is 18.375 gems (about 2.2%) While I gained over half a million in hoardsell value, 11 million on-hand treasure and 47k on-hand gems, changing the ratio makes it seem as if made a loss, and set me back a little, progress-wise. But it does now more accurately reflect the market value of what I have. [center][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/uau4yamn96qep5a/earthmid.png[/img] [size=5][font=garamond][i]Plans for next month[/i][/center] [font=garamond][size=4]I want to get back into the coliseum; I need to find my motivation somewhere. And I also need to start hunting for a new niche market to get my profits from; With my wildclaw scrolls as good as gone, food and leftover cycled gem apparel not selling or running low, and level25 Gen1s only selling once in a blue moon, I need another source of profit to keep the steady progress we've had the past months going. I don't have a clue yet as to what this source might be, but maybe I'll get some inspiration. [center][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/uau4yamn96qep5a/earthmid.png[/img] [size=5][font=garamond][i]Question of the month[/i][/center] [font=garamond][size=4]A small light-hearted question this time. What's your new favourite emoji? I guess mine is obvious; [emoji=owl] [font=garamond]That's it for now. Thank you all for your continued interest and support. <3 [center][img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/ed14j4hr5jhxspv/earthbottom.png[/img][/center] [font=garamond]Pinglist @SariStar @Gusted @StarlitFire @ShadowSwirl @Skorpion @Cakeless @SolusPrime379 @Tiger33621 @Shrine @ladylilitu @LightningShatter @mayanaz @Alphaeon @Tufira @Inkbrush @Iceex @PixelSpiral @Neptunite @phandalin @Katargo @GlitterDCMarvel @Kiowa @depinvenom @Hainu @pulses @CelesteNova @Wianes @boi @Youmeanies @blitzhund @megalizardon4736 @Dandie @ShianneJanelle @Lunamore @inkandbone @Cyrx @Bumpsly @Naahva @AlbinoWerewolf @buythestars @PinesAwait @echolaliate @Zac @Cotera @Jaspernoir @SpiceCookie @BerryPop @aleksey @Sealterbloind @Drakeswing @techmess @FrostDragonRose @Aersolace @TrustRae @Utahraptor93 @Featherycats @TheClassCalico @Zaharawolfkin @Jinoga @Vauvenal @take2thesky @Sawvren @smolelf ------------------------ @SmaugTheAlmighty Oh my, that is on hell of a quest! I guess in that sense I am lucky I am not a big fan of doubles or triples myself, and much prefer XYZs. That'll save me so much pain and agony when trying to find the right dragons to scroll into Imperials, not just with the difficulty of finding a suitable dragon, but also paying for it! I really hope that your 1300 eggs will hatch some nicely coloured XXX dragons soon, so that'll you'll have a nice headstart on your scroll savings. And already 580 eggs?! I thought I had a lot of eggs, reaching 400 last week, when a few raffle entrants exchanged Nocturne eggs for tickets, but 580 is so much more! Congrats! Do you buy your eggs, or do you mostly trade, brew and pray to RNG to get them from gathering and the coliseum? (Also did you want to be on the pinglist or were you just dropping in for a chat? ^^)
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Progress update
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Good afternoon everyone (or morning, evening or night for the other timezones)

I hope everyone is staying safe with the extreme weather throughout the globe. While the temperatures aren't quite dangerous in the Netherlands, they sure are capable of uprooting our public transport system. :-/

It takes a bit of time adjusting to 'post-NotN' Flight Rising. I farmed so much during Night of the Nocturne, that I'm afraid I kind of burned myself out. The first two weeks I couldn't get myself into doing much more than just logging in to gather, feed, breed and bond. I wouldn't even be surprised if I missed a day or two.

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Auction House Sales
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I didn't sell all that much during January, but I also didn't have a lot to sell. The vast majority of these auctions are Wildclaw Scrolls. With them cycling in January 2018, I reckon most people expected them to cycle in last month as well. As a result priced dropped dramatically as everyone was trying to get theirs to sell before they cycled back in, and potential buyers became less and less likely to buy them, rather waiting for their return in the Gem MP. Despite that, I luckily managed to sell the majority of mine, although at a way lower price than I had originally wanted. I only have less than a dozen left now. which I will most likely sell this coming month. This will also mean that the time of mad proceeds in my ledger are over, sadly. But maybe new opportunities will arise.

Although I reckon, with them being a Roundsey price this week, it might actually mean it will be another while before they cycle back in. And it seems people agree with me, as prices have shot up from 2,400g to 2,800g in a few days.

Enough economics, when it comes to raw profits, I can't complain about last month, especially given the low amount of auctions sold and the general lack of activity on-site from my side.

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Coliseum spotlight
As said, with post-NotN blues, I couldn't really bring myself to spend a lot of time in the coliseum, or on the site in general. I guess for the time spent I did get lucky with my drops.


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Other activities

January felt like a good month to wrap up my raffle. It had been going on for half a year, and while I didn't reach my target ticket sales to break even safely, I didn't want to keep the entrants waiting any longer. The announcement of the end date did do wonders for ticket sales, and I sold over 1000 tickets the last week. That burst of ticket sales was enough to push me a lot closer to the break even point, so all in all I am very pleased with a successful raffle and a bunch of happy winners.

While I love raffles, and will definitely host more in the future, I think at the moment I'm gonna take a small break from them. 1. Because I have no clue what to raffle off next, and 2. If a plethora of gem genes isn't enough to draw in a steady stream of entrants, I don't know what else will, and I don't want to be stuck with a raffle that isn't budging. (If you have any ideas for popular prizes I'm all ears. I've done eggs (Noc eggs, Bog eggs, all eggs) eliminate, genes, and gem genes before) Perhaps when (if ever) a new breed is released I might do a raffle for that. Such novelty usually does wonders for the popularity of a raffle and the speed of ticket sales.

Anyways, onwards ...

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Updated totals


On-hand currency: 70.6% (+ 2.1%)*
Hoard value: 9.1% (- 2.2%)*
Investments: 3.0.% (- 4.5%)
Total: 82.7% (- 4.6%)*

*While I generally try to be optimistic, I also need to be realistic. It has been a long while since the gem to treasure ratio was 1:800, and while I held on for a long time, I think a small miracle will need to happen for it to fall below 1:1000 again. Because of that I have now calculated my totals based on a 1:1000 rather than a 1:800 ratio. Sadly, because I have 174.5million treasure that is a difference of 43,625 gems (nearly 5.5%). Similarly for my hoard value being worth 73.5 million treasure, the difference as a result of the changed ratio is 18.375 gems (about 2.2%)

While I gained over half a million in hoardsell value, 11 million on-hand treasure and 47k on-hand gems, changing the ratio makes it seem as if made a loss, and set me back a little, progress-wise. But it does now more accurately reflect the market value of what I have.

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Plans for next month

I want to get back into the coliseum; I need to find my motivation somewhere. And I also need to start hunting for a new niche market to get my profits from; With my wildclaw scrolls as good as gone, food and leftover cycled gem apparel not selling or running low, and level25 Gen1s only selling once in a blue moon, I need another source of profit to keep the steady progress we've had the past months going. I don't have a clue yet as to what this source might be, but maybe I'll get some inspiration.

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Question of the month
A small light-hearted question this time. What's your new favourite emoji? I guess mine is obvious;

That's it for now. Thank you all for your continued interest and support. <3

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@SmaugTheAlmighty Oh my, that is on hell of a quest! I guess in that sense I am lucky I am not a big fan of doubles or triples myself, and much prefer XYZs. That'll save me so much pain and agony when trying to find the right dragons to scroll into Imperials, not just with the difficulty of finding a suitable dragon, but also paying for it!

I really hope that your 1300 eggs will hatch some nicely coloured XXX dragons soon, so that'll you'll have a nice headstart on your scroll savings. And already 580 eggs?! I thought I had a lot of eggs, reaching 400 last week, when a few raffle entrants exchanged Nocturne eggs for tickets, but 580 is so much more! Congrats!

Do you buy your eggs, or do you mostly trade, brew and pray to RNG to get them from gathering and the coliseum?

(Also did you want to be on the pinglist or were you just dropping in for a chat? ^^)
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Gen2 Imps & LV25 Gen1s | Imperial scroll quest | Looking for Dappervolk Alpha gift: Celestial Egg | Buying eggs at 200kt each
Sorry I didn't answer you from last time (I also only log in to bond and gather and such at the moment...) I hatched the 3 XYX's from like 10 eggs, so I'm incredibly lucky X) I offered the second one for a raffle Light is holding for the comming push, but they didn't want her XD I am offering them my third XYX right now, but they haven't responded yet. I really just want the last one gone to a good home, without selling it at fodder prize ^^' And I think it's a good thing you've updated the ratio. Rather now than when you're 99.9% finished, and then...whoops you still need like 10mil or something along those lines. I think you have been here longer than I have - do you remember what the exchange rate was when you joined? I remember back in 2014 it was 750:1 or something like that... That's an inflation rate of...who am i kidding I can't do math XD And my favourite emoji is [emoji=deer skull] because it's cool, hehe.
Sorry I didn't answer you from last time (I also only log in to bond and gather and such at the moment...) I hatched the 3 XYX's from like 10 eggs, so I'm incredibly lucky X) I offered the second one for a raffle Light is holding for the comming push, but they didn't want her XD I am offering them my third XYX right now, but they haven't responded yet. I really just want the last one gone to a good home, without selling it at fodder prize ^^'

And I think it's a good thing you've updated the ratio. Rather now than when you're 99.9% finished, and then...whoops you still need like 10mil or something along those lines. I think you have been here longer than I have - do you remember what the exchange rate was when you joined? I remember back in 2014 it was 750:1 or something like that... That's an inflation rate of...who am i kidding I can't do math XD

And my favourite emoji is because it's cool, hehe.
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I really hope the ratio falls down a bit again. 1:1000+ is sooo high. 1:1000 is easy to calculate with, but I still hope it drops down a bit again. I hope you don't mind me asking but how many scrolls did you invest last year and how do you feel the investment went? Last year I didn't have nearly as much as I do now to invest, but I'm so unsure if it's work going all in or not (last year I invested in 13, now I have enough for 61). My fav emojis is [emoji=treasure][emoji=gem] and the elemental ones, just because I'm going to be using them a lot for my threads and bios. The cats are also super cute [emoji=cat 1][emoji=cat 2][emoji=cat 3]
I really hope the ratio falls down a bit again. 1:1000+ is sooo high. 1:1000 is easy to calculate with, but I still hope it drops down a bit again.

I hope you don't mind me asking but how many scrolls did you invest last year and how do you feel the investment went? Last year I didn't have nearly as much as I do now to invest, but I'm so unsure if it's work going all in or not (last year I invested in 13, now I have enough for 61).

My fav emojis is and the elemental ones, just because I'm going to be using them a lot for my threads and bios. The cats are also super cute
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I think that when it comes to raffles, retired items are the way to go. I personally have invested quite a lot for a few raffles that had sprites and other old festival items, so I think that those are the best attractions :> And for the emoji part, I think my fave is [emoji=four leaf clover] ^^ I'm sad that there's no ladybug emoji tho ;__;
I think that when it comes to raffles, retired items are the way to go. I personally have invested quite a lot for a few raffles that had sprites and other old festival items, so I think that those are the best attractions :>

And for the emoji part, I think my fave is ^^ I'm sad that there's no ladybug emoji tho ;__;
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@Neptunite No worries! We all need a bit of a break sometimes!
I hope the hosts of the Light Raffle will take the third one! :)

And exactly, that's why I decided to update it! I think I will already face an 'I'm there! Oh wait, not yet!'-moment, because the prices of the Scrolls seem to fluctuate and might be higher than what I'm aiming for by the time I reach my goal. So rather than having 2 disappointments, I figured I'd fix one that would be easiest now, and see what I'll do about the other later.

And yeah, I've been here since the first day, and back then the ratio was 1:75. And no, I did not forget a 0. You could literally get 1 gem for 75 treasure. Mind you, back then the fairegrounds hardly worked, we didn't have fully fletched coli builds yet, the AH sometimes contained no dragons, because we all only had 2 dragons to start with, and dragons listed for 30k treasure were snatched up within moments, so exalting wasn't feasible. (Don't even get me started at the exalt payout at that time!) So the only reliable way to get funds fast was to buy gems, and exchange them for treasure. Oh how times have change. And I kick myself for not buying gems back in those days.

Sadly the only thing that I think will reliably bring down the ratio is lair expansions! They are treasure-only, account-bound and in pretty darn high demand right now.
A new treasure MP breed could make a bit of a dent as well, although I think the effect would be less severe and last less long as well.

@Meowesty Not at all, not at all! I spent every penny I had and bought 126 scrolls. While I sold the vast majority for more than 2500g, if we take 2500g as a pessimistic average, that's 63,500g pure profit gained by doing nothing but wait. I had set the limit for myself at 2750g, rather than 2500g, but it took a looooong time before the scrolls reached those prices, and I must admit I was afraid they'd cycle in before I got to sell all of mine, so in the end I went well below my self-set lowest price, and sold a couple for between 2500 and 2750, but I also sold a couple for 2900 when the demand was high.

I have close to 400kg at the moment, so I could purchase at least 200 when they cycle in. If I manage to exchange my treasure for gems as well, that's another 88. Again taking 2500g as sell price, that's 144kg of free profit. If I am patient and wait until the price reaches 2750g, the profit would amount to 216kg! Definitely doing that again if they ever come back! The only downside is that it takes a long time to really pay off. For me, still having a dozen left, it'll be 1 year and 1 month before I fully managed to reap the benefits of the investment.
@Neptunite No worries! We all need a bit of a break sometimes!
I hope the hosts of the Light Raffle will take the third one! :)

And exactly, that's why I decided to update it! I think I will already face an 'I'm there! Oh wait, not yet!'-moment, because the prices of the Scrolls seem to fluctuate and might be higher than what I'm aiming for by the time I reach my goal. So rather than having 2 disappointments, I figured I'd fix one that would be easiest now, and see what I'll do about the other later.

And yeah, I've been here since the first day, and back then the ratio was 1:75. And no, I did not forget a 0. You could literally get 1 gem for 75 treasure. Mind you, back then the fairegrounds hardly worked, we didn't have fully fletched coli builds yet, the AH sometimes contained no dragons, because we all only had 2 dragons to start with, and dragons listed for 30k treasure were snatched up within moments, so exalting wasn't feasible. (Don't even get me started at the exalt payout at that time!) So the only reliable way to get funds fast was to buy gems, and exchange them for treasure. Oh how times have change. And I kick myself for not buying gems back in those days.

Sadly the only thing that I think will reliably bring down the ratio is lair expansions! They are treasure-only, account-bound and in pretty darn high demand right now.
A new treasure MP breed could make a bit of a dent as well, although I think the effect would be less severe and last less long as well.

@Meowesty Not at all, not at all! I spent every penny I had and bought 126 scrolls. While I sold the vast majority for more than 2500g, if we take 2500g as a pessimistic average, that's 63,500g pure profit gained by doing nothing but wait. I had set the limit for myself at 2750g, rather than 2500g, but it took a looooong time before the scrolls reached those prices, and I must admit I was afraid they'd cycle in before I got to sell all of mine, so in the end I went well below my self-set lowest price, and sold a couple for between 2500 and 2750, but I also sold a couple for 2900 when the demand was high.

I have close to 400kg at the moment, so I could purchase at least 200 when they cycle in. If I manage to exchange my treasure for gems as well, that's another 88. Again taking 2500g as sell price, that's 144kg of free profit. If I am patient and wait until the price reaches 2750g, the profit would amount to 216kg! Definitely doing that again if they ever come back! The only downside is that it takes a long time to really pay off. For me, still having a dozen left, it'll be 1 year and 1 month before I fully managed to reap the benefits of the investment.
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Gen2 Imps & LV25 Gen1s | Imperial scroll quest | Looking for Dappervolk Alpha gift: Celestial Egg | Buying eggs at 200kt each
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pinglist please! this is really interesting x)

edit: other then reselling items which would give a good profit, what are some ways you would suggest to others trying to earn some of that sweet dragon cash? :o
@Gaia
pinglist please! this is really interesting x)

edit: other then reselling items which would give a good profit, what are some ways you would suggest to others trying to earn some of that sweet dragon cash? :o
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I'm going to spend as much as I can then, I have been kinda nervous to put everything into the scrolls. Good thing I finally have gotten the motivation to AH properly again. I have already made 2kG from it in 24ish hours. I'm behind on updating my own thread, but I have had to make some changes in approach to keep my motivation up. I will update my thread when I have done some more testing in how I want to go forward ^^ I still have 141 scattersights too, not sure how long they are worth holding on to, might be worth selling some of them to get WC scroll funds.

I was debating doing some egg investments during the dip in price duing NotN, but it felt too risky to commit a lot to it because a small change can make it not really worth while. So I decided to settle for the 50 eggs I got from chests and just have those as "investment" until the value goes up in 6 months or so. It's not a ton, but it's something at least :'D

I really want to get better at judging investments as a way to supplement the profit I get from just purely grinding. It's scary tho, and I don't feel like I have a good enough grip on it to make it really worth while.

(Sorry this got long, I don't mean to spam your thread with my own stuff ^^" I just got really excited and motivated when I saw your post)
I'm going to spend as much as I can then, I have been kinda nervous to put everything into the scrolls. Good thing I finally have gotten the motivation to AH properly again. I have already made 2kG from it in 24ish hours. I'm behind on updating my own thread, but I have had to make some changes in approach to keep my motivation up. I will update my thread when I have done some more testing in how I want to go forward ^^ I still have 141 scattersights too, not sure how long they are worth holding on to, might be worth selling some of them to get WC scroll funds.

I was debating doing some egg investments during the dip in price duing NotN, but it felt too risky to commit a lot to it because a small change can make it not really worth while. So I decided to settle for the 50 eggs I got from chests and just have those as "investment" until the value goes up in 6 months or so. It's not a ton, but it's something at least :'D

I really want to get better at judging investments as a way to supplement the profit I get from just purely grinding. It's scary tho, and I don't feel like I have a good enough grip on it to make it really worth while.

(Sorry this got long, I don't mean to spam your thread with my own stuff ^^" I just got really excited and motivated when I saw your post)
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@Meowesty I am not sure with the scattersights. I have 122 of those, and while they are worth a lot less than WC scrolls, they are retired. Ofcourse, Roundsey now also includes retired items such as sprites every once in a while, but if the staff doesn't change the retired status of scattervials and they only are added as a Roundsey price once in a blue moon, they will become rarer and more valuable than WC scrolls ever will be.. The question is however; how long will that take, and how much could you potentially have made from selling them earlier and using those funds to invest and reinvest again and again in WC scrolls?

Let's do a bit of math, shall we?! :)
Let's assume WC scrolls cycling back an average of let's say once a year.
And let's assume we start with 100 scattersights. The current price is 283g each, so 28300g for all of them. If you liquidate them now, and (let's assume WC scrolls are in the MP) spend it all on WC scrolls, you can 14, and have 300g leftover.

During the year you'll sell them for 2650g each (seems like a good average), netting you 37100g, plus the 300g you had leftover.

One year later the WC scrolls cycle back in, and you can now buy 18, with 1400g left over. As the second year passes you'll sell those again for 2650g, and now you have 47700g plus those 1400g you had left over for a total of 49100g.

WC scrolls cycle back in for a third time a year later, and now you can buy 24 of them, with 1100g leftover. Selling them again for 2650g, you get 63600g and the 1100g leftovers.

So if you go the WC scroll path, you can technically (albeit somewhat optimistically) turn 100 scattersights into a profit of 64700 gems in roughly 3 years.
If you instead keep the scattersights, that means scattersights would need to increase from 283 to 647g in value in 3 years to get the same results..
To be honest, I am not sure how (un)likely it is for that to happen.
(But I am now excited to make a little spreadsheet that calculates the profits gotten from WC scroll investments over a longer period of time depending on 1. starting funds, 2. cycle-in frequency, and 3. sell price!)


I was debating the same thing with the eggs, but there were people sniping up every egg prices below 200g/200kt so the price never really got the chance to drop much lower. Can you imagine that 2 years ago the price dropped as low as 70g during NotN?! If that had happened again this year, I would've spend a lot on eggs, but I felt 200g/kt was too risky as well. So same as you, I'll stick to the eggs I got from chests (and trades/raffle payments)

I have to agree on the investing part. I thought I had a good grasp of it, but I misinvested in berserkers when the augment stones were fixed (luckily the loss was 'only' 400k treasure), I misinvested in NotN gem apparel, losing a couple thousand gems, and I underestimated a lot of items that suddenly skyrocketed in price, like the light halo and some other holiday items. So yeah.. It is scary, and I am hesitant too. WC scrolls are a solid investment, but they cycle in so rarely, and the ROI-time is so long. It'd make for a very boring year if all we did was invest in those!

And no worries; I love debating and contemplating markets and economics! :D And if it helps you get your motivation back, it's even better!






@Pleasant; pinglist updated, thank you for your interest! ^^ Exalting is definitely a good way to go. If you have the patience and the room, breed your own fodder, so that the exalt payout is 100% profit, but even if you buy them, the profit adds up over time. The loot from the coliseum is added bonus :) The fairegrounds is great for treasure as well. I max out Glimmer and Gloom daily in about 10 minutes.
And honestly, not spending anything (other than investing or buying fodder to exalt). It is greatly underestimated how much you can accidentally or unawarely spend when you're trying to save up for something. So be strict, and you'll see you will soon be earning 100k or more a day!

Keep an eye on the Dom Watch thread to anticipate when heated dominance battles may happen so that you can stock up on levelled fodder early and sell them for even more than the regular payout.
@Meowesty I am not sure with the scattersights. I have 122 of those, and while they are worth a lot less than WC scrolls, they are retired. Ofcourse, Roundsey now also includes retired items such as sprites every once in a while, but if the staff doesn't change the retired status of scattervials and they only are added as a Roundsey price once in a blue moon, they will become rarer and more valuable than WC scrolls ever will be.. The question is however; how long will that take, and how much could you potentially have made from selling them earlier and using those funds to invest and reinvest again and again in WC scrolls?

Let's do a bit of math, shall we?! :)
Let's assume WC scrolls cycling back an average of let's say once a year.
And let's assume we start with 100 scattersights. The current price is 283g each, so 28300g for all of them. If you liquidate them now, and (let's assume WC scrolls are in the MP) spend it all on WC scrolls, you can 14, and have 300g leftover.

During the year you'll sell them for 2650g each (seems like a good average), netting you 37100g, plus the 300g you had leftover.

One year later the WC scrolls cycle back in, and you can now buy 18, with 1400g left over. As the second year passes you'll sell those again for 2650g, and now you have 47700g plus those 1400g you had left over for a total of 49100g.

WC scrolls cycle back in for a third time a year later, and now you can buy 24 of them, with 1100g leftover. Selling them again for 2650g, you get 63600g and the 1100g leftovers.

So if you go the WC scroll path, you can technically (albeit somewhat optimistically) turn 100 scattersights into a profit of 64700 gems in roughly 3 years.
If you instead keep the scattersights, that means scattersights would need to increase from 283 to 647g in value in 3 years to get the same results..
To be honest, I am not sure how (un)likely it is for that to happen.
(But I am now excited to make a little spreadsheet that calculates the profits gotten from WC scroll investments over a longer period of time depending on 1. starting funds, 2. cycle-in frequency, and 3. sell price!)


I was debating the same thing with the eggs, but there were people sniping up every egg prices below 200g/200kt so the price never really got the chance to drop much lower. Can you imagine that 2 years ago the price dropped as low as 70g during NotN?! If that had happened again this year, I would've spend a lot on eggs, but I felt 200g/kt was too risky as well. So same as you, I'll stick to the eggs I got from chests (and trades/raffle payments)

I have to agree on the investing part. I thought I had a good grasp of it, but I misinvested in berserkers when the augment stones were fixed (luckily the loss was 'only' 400k treasure), I misinvested in NotN gem apparel, losing a couple thousand gems, and I underestimated a lot of items that suddenly skyrocketed in price, like the light halo and some other holiday items. So yeah.. It is scary, and I am hesitant too. WC scrolls are a solid investment, but they cycle in so rarely, and the ROI-time is so long. It'd make for a very boring year if all we did was invest in those!

And no worries; I love debating and contemplating markets and economics! :D And if it helps you get your motivation back, it's even better!






@Pleasant; pinglist updated, thank you for your interest! ^^ Exalting is definitely a good way to go. If you have the patience and the room, breed your own fodder, so that the exalt payout is 100% profit, but even if you buy them, the profit adds up over time. The loot from the coliseum is added bonus :) The fairegrounds is great for treasure as well. I max out Glimmer and Gloom daily in about 10 minutes.
And honestly, not spending anything (other than investing or buying fodder to exalt). It is greatly underestimated how much you can accidentally or unawarely spend when you're trying to save up for something. So be strict, and you'll see you will soon be earning 100k or more a day!

Keep an eye on the Dom Watch thread to anticipate when heated dominance battles may happen so that you can stock up on levelled fodder early and sell them for even more than the regular payout.
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The scattersights are super hard to judge. Since they are retired they might go to an unbelievable price (which I honestly doubt due to the low chance of getting what you are looking for, so aiming for faceted, multi and primal is just crazy). It's also difficult because they might add things that makes the item worth less, there is always a risk of them adding something that really changes the value on an item like it. I do think they are going up more in value but it's hard to say how much, which makes it hard to time.

I have debated a few times to buy a few elims while the price is low-ish during periods of tons of coli activity and then sell them later. But it's so hard to judge. There is more than once that I have been debating it but decided against it, and then they end up going up with 200g in less than a week :'D but it's also scary to invest in, because suddenly they can decide to fix the drop rate.

At least WC scrolls is a stable passive income :) Would suck if they decided to switch places for WC and coatl scrolls, but it seems unlikely.

I wish I was better at and more invested in spreadsheets so I could track values and see patters in their value to help lower risks and up the profit. It's not realistic for me tho, so I just have to do my best and hope for some luck on my side.
The scattersights are super hard to judge. Since they are retired they might go to an unbelievable price (which I honestly doubt due to the low chance of getting what you are looking for, so aiming for faceted, multi and primal is just crazy). It's also difficult because they might add things that makes the item worth less, there is always a risk of them adding something that really changes the value on an item like it. I do think they are going up more in value but it's hard to say how much, which makes it hard to time.

I have debated a few times to buy a few elims while the price is low-ish during periods of tons of coli activity and then sell them later. But it's so hard to judge. There is more than once that I have been debating it but decided against it, and then they end up going up with 200g in less than a week :'D but it's also scary to invest in, because suddenly they can decide to fix the drop rate.

At least WC scrolls is a stable passive income :) Would suck if they decided to switch places for WC and coatl scrolls, but it seems unlikely.

I wish I was better at and more invested in spreadsheets so I could track values and see patters in their value to help lower risks and up the profit. It's not realistic for me tho, so I just have to do my best and hope for some luck on my side.
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@Gaia

I am actually up to 658 eggs now! I mostly just buy them (aside from the rare few I get from gathering and coli drops). NotN helped me reach 100 Noc eggs real fast though lol.

I level fodder for profit a lot so I usually convert my treasure to gems through trade (as well as buying gems through the gem marketplace). I will admit though that I have been slow with leveling fodder for a while (since NotN) and I need to get back into it.

I never used to like triples all that much either, until the newer genes with accent colors came out. I have been collecting double G1s for years though and recently I have found myself wanting a triple G1 but I also want to hatch it myself. I know that I could have bought an existing triple G1 easily with all that I have spent on eggs these past months, but it just wouldn't be as satisfying as actually hatching one myself. Then if I hatch one I would have a new goal to work towards, getting an imperial scroll!
@Gaia

I am actually up to 658 eggs now! I mostly just buy them (aside from the rare few I get from gathering and coli drops). NotN helped me reach 100 Noc eggs real fast though lol.

I level fodder for profit a lot so I usually convert my treasure to gems through trade (as well as buying gems through the gem marketplace). I will admit though that I have been slow with leveling fodder for a while (since NotN) and I need to get back into it.

I never used to like triples all that much either, until the newer genes with accent colors came out. I have been collecting double G1s for years though and recently I have found myself wanting a triple G1 but I also want to hatch it myself. I know that I could have bought an existing triple G1 easily with all that I have spent on eggs these past months, but it just wouldn't be as satisfying as actually hatching one myself. Then if I hatch one I would have a new goal to work towards, getting an imperial scroll!
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