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Hi, It's me, Catti~ [right][size=2][url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0TNK3eG4bQ&ab_channel=games528]Have some background music if you like reading with that sort of thing[/url][/size][/right] With the hype of Bounty of the Elements calming down (March2018) I found myself in a crossroad. There was a lot of information dropped and so many lore opportunities opened up for me to study…yet so much left up in the air. I could tackle how Tidelord's future vision works but with him being a pretty main focuse because of his disaperance and how every entry was left on a cliffhanger, I do not want to limit his abilities by analizing them. I could have doven into the [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2387223/1]In the image of[/url] series again but with the introduction of the Gailors I want to hold back on that for now to see if anything gets dropped in the future…besides…as of this date of writing I know we are overdue with a new breed for a wile now give that the sight has changed so much. With all this going down, I have been passing the time and playing this one game called Story of Seasons Trio of Towns. [img]https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61ZoEYtR7pL.jpg[/img] It's a game where to prove your father wrong, you do go out to your dream job and go out to the country to your farm land and become a farmer. You can fall in love and get married but ultimently the goal of the game is to become the best farmer you can be. Outside of your farm there are 3 towns you can viset, each based off of an ethic culture. [img]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Vm6kE8wKcHo/maxresdefault.jpg[/img] An old western town reminiscent of the old Gold rush town era, named [b]Westown[/b]. The only area in the game where you can mine for ore by the way. [img]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5EOhe-4I0Ao/maxresdefault.jpg[/img] Raul china / japan style town named [b]Tsuyukusa[/b]. [img]https://bargaingamesuk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Story-of-Seasons-2-3DS-screen1.png[/img] And last but not least, a town heavily basted off of island civilizations, primaialy Hawaii, named [b]Lulukoko[/b]. If you know harvest moon, this is the spiritual susessor being the games "20th" anavvursery of the series…even though this is only the second installment of the game. Funny enough, this game is as old as I am with the first entry being releaced in 1996. So a lot of love and care went into crafting the game, I can say this as both a Harvestmoon/Story of seasons fan and having first hand exsperance myself. Now, the reason why I am bringing all this up because me personally? I feel that the game does a wonderful job at representing the cultures each town is based off of. And I do not mean just the "face value" apperance like dressing up like a cowboy and bamn you got ol'y Amarica on your hands. Down bellow I garbed a random selection of villagers from each town and odds are from a glance you can easly tell which town they'ed live in. [img]http://sos2-cdn.fogu.com/villager_tototara.png[/img][img]http://sos2-cdn.fogu.com/villager_tatsumi.png[/img][img]http://sos2-cdn.fogu.com/villager_ittetsu.png[/img][img]http://sos2-cdn.fogu.com/villager_hector.png[/img][img]http://sos2-cdn.fogu.com/villager_yaichi.png[/img][img]http://sos2-cdn.fogu.com/villager_caolila.png[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/wDcK7sH.png[/img] [img]https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51EeYKSyy7L.jpg[/img] The diolect in each town is slightly different, and though I am not from an island background, I can say for certain that the it's fairly accurate. Not to mention all the game play functions locked to each town, such as festivals, recipes, and even shop contents. So even though I do not see a speech difference in say the Tsuyukusa I can still feel that every town was built to be as "authentic" as it could have been wile still feeling like one big ol' melting pot of that area's culture influences. [img]http://sos2-cdn.fogu.com/villager_ittetsu.png[/img] In the game I triggered a cutscene of a father named Ittetsu didn't know what to buy for his two sons. It wasn't for a birthday or anything just a genuine nice surprise. My character agreed and we both walked to the store. However, due to the different camera angle, once we where there I spotted something spinning behind the text box. I hid it and then i saw what was behind it. [img]https://i.imgur.com/JRIGQRj.jpg[/img] A bunch of pinwheels just…spinning there…sticking out of some straw or rice polls…supporting the roof of a general store…in an Eastern Asian melting pot of cultures of a town …in a game where they payed attention to all those little details and their significance. …And I thought to myself "What does Pinwheels have to do with Asian culture…and where have I seen this before recently?" And then It hit me. [img]http://www1.flightrising.com/static/layout/exalted/exalted-3.jpg[/img] [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2406884/2#post_32423932][b]in this post which I am listing as a required reading to at least skim the damn thing[/b],[/url] I went over how "authentic" it was for the wind pillar to look the way it does. Even the breed of dragon that Windsinger is is based off of the Eastern Asian insterpitation of a dragon, which roughly originated from the gliding snakes that are native to that part of the world. [img]https://media.giphy.com/media/jCh6FgL9nPxNC/giphy.gif[/img] [center][img]https://i.imgur.com/NzR5P8I.png[/img][/center] We also had the festival recently that showed pinwheels being a very notable symbol but however I knew this wasn't just an isolated incidence because when I made my human version of Windsinger and was driving sorces from basket wearing traveling monks. I was careful to include in the pinwheel. [img]http://78.media.tumblr.com/36682c0cd556b71dd46288492c1eeffd/tumblr_owwscvhxbe1slzv9go5_1280.png[/img][img]http://78.media.tumblr.com/0c5cfbe4f41fbe2ad276a50ac09b8753/tumblr_owwscvhxbe1slzv9go7_1280.png[/img] [url=http://catgame21234.tumblr.com/post/165774887883/i-dont-think-i-posted-my-concepts-for-the][b]source[/b][/url] Because at the time the newest vista for the wind flight had pinwheel prominently display the pinwheel [center][img]https://i.imgur.com/DZnshtp.png[/img][/center] So then I started to think "is this the only instance where pinwheels where used with FR, meaning is this a relatively new trend or has this been a "thing" since the beginning?" So I went off looking for more evidence of when pinwheels where used. I knew off the top of my head that none of the apparel from the wind festivals had pinwheels, nor any normal apparel items for that matter. [img]http://flightrising.com/images/cms/familiar/art/26100.png[/img] The newest familiar which is an "artistic" interpolation of the world emphasizing key locations only lacked this, so I felt like a hit a dead end.… However my curiosity made me lead to the –from what I know– the oldest lore this sight has ever since this place's inception. [img]http://www1.flightrising.com/static/map/region_wind.jpg[/img] Right there on the south and west end of the Plateau pinwheels as clear as day. Oversized? Maybe, but important enough to include even back then. I kept thinking to myself, "Why with something so carefully put together with the FR staff is, and how respectable they are with studying source material, would include pinwheels". [center] = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =[/center] I first attempted to Occam's razor this question away by going along the lines of. [quote= Epilogue: Flight Rising]I will create thousands of children, thought the Windsinger, the air will be cleansed and painted in a plethora of colored brushes. My flight will carry the stories of the realm, and tell of its history. A pity that the others will never know a similar joy. [/quote] Since Windsinger views his flight as his children, and pinwheels are a toy, perhaps it is mearly for the hatchlings to be entertained by, to simbolize youth. Besides its also a toy that works with [i]wind power[/i]. But…when I looked it up… [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinwheel_(toy)]I saw that the pinwheel as we know it was only made recently[/url] in 1919, by an American inventor no less. This…clashed with the evidence I have gotten from Trio of Towns, why would an amarican invention be so popular in Asin cultre? And a relatively new phenomena if that. I felt like there was a deeper root to the origin of the pinwheel itself. And it lead me to [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whirligig#cite_note-15]Whirligigs[/url]. Whirligigs are wind power decorations now adays for guardians but also surve some toy or pratical use with guarden care. Though the origian of the Whirligig is unknown, the first documented Whirligig was around 400 BC with the invention of Bamboo-copter which was found both in China and Japan. [img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/Taketombo.jpg/500px-Taketombo.jpg[/img][img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Taketombo.JPG/500px-Taketombo.jpg[/img] Though I was pleased with finding the origan of the pin wheel, willing to except that such a "tool" could still be something "authentic" to that cultures background without just being souly an modern adoption. …There was still one last thing that was bothering me with Windsinger adopting the pinwheel as a very iconc symbol. [i]Why pinwheels?[/i] [center] = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =[/center] [i]Why[/i] pinwheels? [i]What[/i] about them makes them so significant in it's starting culture to the point where we are here today with the Windsinger adopting pinwheels. Outside of the Occam's razor argument of childlike wonderment you get from holding it I felt like there had to be more. So I looked up some more cultural sensitivity evidence from the real world seeing how Pinwheels are used. And well this is what I found. [b][url=https://www.jnto.go.jp/eng/indepth/cultural/feeljapanesque/osorezan.html]A BRIDGE TO THE BEYOND[/url][/b] [columns] In the far north of Japan is a place of awesome desolation where the spirits of the dead are thought to gather. Osore-zan (Fear Mountain) was revered already in ancient times by the indigenous Ainu people, who once inhabited that northern region of the island of Honshu, before they were driven into Ezo (now called Hokkaido) by the Japanese.[nextcol] [img]https://www.jnto.go.jp/eng/indepth/cultural/feeljapanesque/img/osorezan_01.jpg[/img][/columns] [columns] [img]https://www.jnto.go.jp/eng/indepth/cultural/feeljapanesque/img/osorezan_03.jpg[/img][nextcol]Women of all ages, occasionally accompanied by their husbands, come to arrange poignant offerings to the spirits of their lost children along the lakeshore: toys, flowers, coins, candy, snacks. Nearly every cluster of offerings is marked with one or more pinwheels which spin in the breeze, ruffling the air with the softest of sounds. The parents stay a while, praying, remembering. . . . Often they bring a picnic lunch which they will eat right there, seated on the ground, sharing food and conversation with the spirit. [/columns] [b][url=https://epicureandculture.com/traditional-japan-exploring-culture-on-okinawas-taketomi-island/]Traditional Japan: Exploring Culture On Okinawa’s Taketomi Island[/url][/b] [columns] Because the island of Taketomi is heritage-listed, the buildings in the village are all required to look the same. Along with being one-story with coral-lined yards and red-tiled roofs, each one has a shiisa for protection. These animated lion statues protect inhabitants from misfortune and bad weather. You may notice some of them holding an object, either a ball, pinwheel or ladder. While the ladder represents reaching your accomplishments step-by-step at the age of 60, the ball symbolizes how one has control over their world at the age of 70. If you spot a pinwheel, this stands for the circle of life when a person is in their 80s and how they become like a child again.[nextcol][img]https://i.imgur.com/WurOnZV.png[/img][/columns] That and some antidotal evidence that I wasn't able to find more sources of, but more so word of mouth from others in QnA areas across the net. I ran into it a few couple of times every time the question popped up and I felt that it would be worth sharing. These following lines are just copy and paste lines from many diffrent blogs. The symbolic meaning of a pinwheel is “to turn one’s luck around”. Chinese culture believes the pinwheel is an instrument to turn obstacles into opportunities and as such they are a revered symbol during Chinese New Year festitivies. A pinwheel symbolizes childhood and your carefree nature.They have become quite elaborate and are used during Chinese New Year festivities to bestow good luck, longevity, health, and prosperity on its owner. In China, pinwheels can also be seen in temples and cemeteries. They are believed to be for the loss of a child. I have heard that locally they (pinwheels) are called "bagua" and Bagua historically are are [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagua]8 symbols used[/url] in "ancient science of the origin and development of the universe" [img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Bagua-name-earlier.svg/550px-Bagua-name-earlier.svg.png[/img] each symbol repersenting what make the univurse at large. and there are two I wish to focuse on. Name - Nature/element - seasons it repersents- meaning Qián- Sky - Summer- [u]Expansive energy[/u], the [u]sky[/u]. Xùn- Wind - Summer- [u]Gentle[/u] penetration, flexibility. Expansive energy, and flexibility Many other attributes clame that what makes up this and other elements is the essence of "creativity". These are all traits that the wind culture that the Windsinger cultivated are famous for. [quote=map]The wind dragons of the Windswept Plateau are explorers. They prefer to be joyful and care-free, like the [u]gentle[/u] and playful breezes that whisk them to new lands. Of all the dragons, wind dragons are the most friendly, [u]eager to become a small part of every community[/u] they encounter before they eventually and inevitably leave, [u]following the currents[/u] in pursuit of a new adventure. Maps, compasses, and feathers are their favored treasures.[/quote] And well for flexibility? Well since the gods did make their children in their image. [quote=Spiral n Skydancer encyclopedia entry][img]http://flightrising.com/images/wiki/breed_spiral.png[/img] Their ropey lengths instinctively wrap and coil around any available surface even in slumber. This adaptation has kept many Spirals from meeting an unfortunate end. They rely on their natural agility to protect them from oncoming attacks. Their erratic, unpredictable flight patterns make them a difficult target to hit. [img]http://flightrising.com/images/wiki/breed_skydancer.png[/img] Like their spiral cousins, Skydancers are an active species. They enjoy channeling their energy into elaborate dances and displays of aerial acrobatics. [/quote] a more litteral interpitation but valid in my eyes none the less ^^. Thus this is a reason why the pinwheel is symbolic to the windflight outside of being a hatchling toy, aconection thorugh it's more historical context…However there is still one more thing. One thing that I saw said a lot around the internet was this: [b] In Chinese culture, the pinwheel is an instrument to “turn one’s luck around,” or turn obstacles into opportunities.[/b] And…to me I think this reason here is truly why windsinger's flight adorns the land with pinwheels. It's symbolic of the struggles and trials that Windsinger puts on his children, either by choice or by chance and mistake. You can look at the World map description of each of the flights and get a feel for the land. [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/wiki/world-map/region/3]And windsinger[/url] tells a tale of a jorny and the goal is to get to the cloud song. It's quite a long jorney to get that much treasure after all~ And if you are reading this, that means that you–shy person from the wind flight whom has never posted on the fourms– are slowly traveling and meating new people asyou work up the money to get to the gradest lair area of them all =) how pretty is that? However …… there is one more location where i feel that this saying "obstacles into opportunities" is used at it's fullest. To not spoil the story, I highly encourage you to read or re-read the lore book which was added to the game during Bounty of the Elements…and perhaps maybe you can learn what the courier dragon learned that day and maybe learn why you should appreciate the little pinwheel in the courier's bag~ [center] [url=http://flightrising.com/main.php?p=wiki&article=95][b]A New Direction[/b] [i][u]A courier learns an important lesson.[/u][/i] [img]http://flightrising.com/dropbox/lore_wind9368547.png[/img][/url][/center] --------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- [center][url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2380813/1#post_31800788][b]Lore Buddies Main Hub. Click to read more theories![/b][/url] Like what you read? Then maybe these other articles may interest you![/center] [columns] [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2239281/1][b]Open letter 2 Pocketss:WindDad'sHeadSize [/b][img]https://i.imgur.com/ZmxS89N.png[/img] [left] July 21, 2017[/left][/url][nextcol] The very first lore buddies ping list. Made souly to prove my friend wrong that yes you can find out how big and long Noodle dad's head is. [b]This thread covers topics such as:[/b] [LIST] [*]Deity hight [*]General dragon sizes [*]The longest noodle to rule them all [/LIST] [b]Recommended Pages to Read:[/b] The first post, then skim for any images there after. Stop reading when you reach the size comparison between godzilla and Stormcatcher for the main meat of the thread …that and p. 27 has some extra graphs. Counterarguments are all over the place (will have to make an update in the future…)[/columns] ------------- [columns][b]Bounty of the Elements Foot Notes[/b] [center][b]Part 1[/b][/center] [img]https://i.imgur.com/9gmxEOO.png[/img] [left]March 6 - March 15 2018[/left][nextcol] I take notes on the entries added to the Encyclopedia that where added in the Bounty of the Elements update, documenting all facts about cannon we can gather from just the text alone. [b]Click on the symbol you wish to read. A link to the entry will be there too. Warning, spoilers, but it'll be safe to click on to be taken to the main article if you can't find it. [/b] [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2392883#post_2392883][img]https://i.imgur.com/KuFUZpQ.png[/img] [b]Lore we learned from A New Direction[/b][/url] [/columns] ------------- [columns][url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2243113][b]Theory: Murals of 1st age is/'nt real [/b][img]https://i.imgur.com/M2tA0Vg.png[/img] [left] July 26, 2017[/left][/url][nextcol] [nextcol] An interpretation of [url=http://flightrising.com/main.php?p=wiki&article=6] Chapter 1: The First Age[/url] from the soul fact that we do not know who is the author of the story. There by we don't know if what we see is fact.…that and i saw some beta artwork from the artist who drew the dragons here and im like YO THIS STUFF IS COOL I WANNA SHOW IT TO EVERYONE. [b]This thread covers topics such as:[/b] [LIST] [*]The first 8 Deities [*]Lore heavy [*]"Headcannon" Heavy [*]Official Beta artwork and possible inspirations of modern gods. [*]Art history [*]Art interpretation. [*]An Interview with someone far smarter than me in this subject (Art history interpretation) [/LIST] [b]Recommended Pages to Read:[/b] First post [/columns] ------------- ------------- ------------- [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2380813/1#post_2380813]Lore buddy[/url] ping list: [b](add me as a friend and comment on my profile page to be added!)[/b] [size=7]Please remove this ping list so that you don't ping +100 users.[/size] [s]my internet keeps me from editing posts fast enough and properly[/s] [size=1][size=1][size=1]@ArtsyDragon7, @Kawootie, @GlitterDCMarvel, @WhySoDelirious, @PoorLifeChoices, @Amyatzu, @JadeMagic, @CrystalRush, @Leopardmask, @violalore, @bowserslave, @Ellapinky, @JumpScared, @JadeFlame, @Duskflame, @TheElfDruid,@Rinwood,@DiamondNoodles,@3idolon,@Kaibutsu,@DarkwingDove, @ColoradoBlues @ClockworkEclipse, @SleepyChipmunk @Sabriel415, @DarkVSO, @WhiteDiamond ,@RingsofSaturn, @MagicSpyglass,@Rocwylde, @Artificiary,@ILUVDRAGONS, @throwaway181,@L2B,@Kittystar,@riseandshine, @luminousnoble, @Spottedleaves1,@Gaming4Lyfe @MiniDrachin @Katsuokai @AetherDragon @Kano3Shuuya @Caravan @EmeraldJubilee @TheEngineer @Kristan @Inkapede @KitApparently @girlgirlDragon @JonTargaryen @CassieRose @Chimaerix @Comic1Sans @CrazyRedFire @QuetzalQueen @FlamingSwallow @ookamisoulreaper @HyperionForge @Starglade @Galaxiel @biochemist @P4810 @CrAZDragon @Skyfire7 @AnacondaMiracle @Kerriganne @Cumulus @Aaliyahgemini664 @Smirch @Nomo2001 @RecursionErr0r @Scorporius @Kapara @GuidanceOfficer @Espeon5712 @Druddigon @Thace @MrFrenchFrybrows @RicochetRomance @FluffyTundras @CloverGaming @argylion @starryfruit @Eiira @NovaAurora @dinosaur42 @TimeStandStill @browncoatparadox @TropicalDiamonds @Cytus @RattleSnakes @SariStar @Kirrandria @clw23 @Hinumi @ThornOfStorm130 @FireStarter007 @SnoringHyena @mnkn10 @Dragonartist24 @Mikann @Namira @Nomo2001 @Cringeworthi @Drakenhart @PastCat @ArtsyDragon7 @Mediumdee @Stanari @CosmicTrash @W1F1N1GHTM4R3 @MidnightWatcher @SilverCentaur @Hashira @Temporaryreality @dragonhorselover @IronPen @Dreamcoyote @gbot13 @GrumpyCatlover @Sassibirb @AlphaP456 @Araucaria @Bufftuffandfluff @Ketzexi @Kamme @TheGodOfStories @Gravebloom @nebulavery @Drakzaen @TheClassCalico @SalmonnFishie @Lunakitty @Jeevas @rluie @Sparkbreeze @aly922 [/size][/size][/size] ~ ~ ~ temp additions for "lore we learned from Bounty of the Elements" @duskflower @Chrysanthss
Hi, It's me, Catti~
With the hype of Bounty of the Elements calming down (March2018) I found myself in a crossroad. There was a lot of information dropped and so many lore opportunities opened up for me to study…yet so much left up in the air. I could tackle how Tidelord's future vision works but with him being a pretty main focuse because of his disaperance and how every entry was left on a cliffhanger, I do not want to limit his abilities by analizing them. I could have doven into the In the image of series again but with the introduction of the Gailors I want to hold back on that for now to see if anything gets dropped in the future…besides…as of this date of writing I know we are overdue with a new breed for a wile now give that the sight has changed so much.
With all this going down, I have been passing the time and playing this one game called Story of Seasons Trio of Towns.

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It's a game where to prove your father wrong, you do go out to your dream job and go out to the country to your farm land and become a farmer. You can fall in love and get married but ultimently the goal of the game is to become the best farmer you can be. Outside of your farm there are 3 towns you can viset, each based off of an ethic culture.
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An old western town reminiscent of the old Gold rush town era, named Westown. The only area in the game where you can mine for ore by the way.


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Raul china / japan style town named Tsuyukusa.

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And last but not least, a town heavily basted off of island civilizations, primaialy Hawaii, named Lulukoko.

If you know harvest moon, this is the spiritual susessor being the games "20th" anavvursery of the series…even though this is only the second installment of the game. Funny enough, this game is as old as I am with the first entry being releaced in 1996. So a lot of love and care went into crafting the game, I can say this as both a Harvestmoon/Story of seasons fan and having first hand exsperance myself.


Now, the reason why I am bringing all this up because me personally? I feel that the game does a wonderful job at representing the cultures each town is based off of. And I do not mean just the "face value" apperance like dressing up like a cowboy and bamn you got ol'y Amarica on your hands.


Down bellow I garbed a random selection of villagers from each town and odds are from a glance you can easly tell which town they'ed live in.

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The diolect in each town is slightly different, and though I am not from an island background, I can say for certain that the it's fairly accurate. Not to mention all the game play functions locked to each town, such as festivals, recipes, and even shop contents.
So even though I do not see a speech difference in say the Tsuyukusa I can still feel that every town was built to be as "authentic" as it could have been wile still feeling like one big ol' melting pot of that area's culture influences.


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In the game I triggered a cutscene of a father named Ittetsu didn't know what to buy for his two sons. It wasn't for a birthday or anything just a genuine nice surprise. My character agreed and we both walked to the store. However, due to the different camera angle, once we where there I spotted something spinning behind the text box. I hid it and then i saw what was behind it.

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A bunch of pinwheels just…spinning there…sticking out of some straw or rice polls…supporting the roof of a general store…in an Eastern Asian melting pot of cultures of a town …in a game where they payed attention to all those little details and their significance.

…And I thought to myself


"What does Pinwheels have to do with Asian culture…and where have I seen this before recently?"


And then It hit me.

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in this post which I am listing as a required reading to at least skim the damn thing, I went over how "authentic" it was for the wind pillar to look the way it does. Even the breed of dragon that Windsinger is is based off of the Eastern Asian insterpitation of a dragon, which roughly originated from the gliding snakes that are native to that part of the world.

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We also had the festival recently that showed pinwheels being a very notable symbol but however I knew this wasn't just an isolated incidence because when I made my human version of Windsinger and was driving sorces from basket wearing traveling monks. I was careful to include in the pinwheel.

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Because at the time the newest vista for the wind flight had pinwheel prominently display the pinwheel
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So then I started to think "is this the only instance where pinwheels where used with FR, meaning is this a relatively new trend or has this been a "thing" since the beginning?"
So I went off looking for more evidence of when pinwheels where used.
I knew off the top of my head that none of the apparel from the wind festivals had pinwheels, nor any normal apparel items for that matter.

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The newest familiar which is an "artistic" interpolation of the world emphasizing key locations only lacked this, so I felt like a hit a dead end.… However my curiosity made me lead to the –from what I know– the oldest lore this sight has ever since this place's inception.


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Right there on the south and west end of the Plateau pinwheels as clear as day. Oversized? Maybe, but important enough to include even back then.

I kept thinking to myself, "Why with something so carefully put together with the FR staff is, and how respectable they are with studying source material, would include pinwheels".







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I first attempted to Occam's razor this question away by going along the lines of.
Epilogue: Flight Rising wrote:
I will create thousands of children, thought the Windsinger, the air will be cleansed and painted in a plethora of colored brushes. My flight will carry the stories of the realm, and tell of its history. A pity that the others will never know a similar joy.

Since Windsinger views his flight as his children, and pinwheels are a toy, perhaps it is mearly for the hatchlings to be entertained by, to simbolize youth. Besides its also a toy that works with wind power.

But…when I looked it up… I saw that the pinwheel as we know it was only made recently in 1919, by an American inventor no less.

This…clashed with the evidence I have gotten from Trio of Towns, why would an amarican invention be so popular in Asin cultre? And a relatively new phenomena if that. I felt like there was a deeper root to the origin of the pinwheel itself.
And it lead me to Whirligigs.

Whirligigs are wind power decorations now adays for guardians but also surve some toy or pratical use with guarden care. Though the origian of the Whirligig is unknown, the first documented Whirligig was around 400 BC with the invention of Bamboo-copter which was found both in China and Japan.

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Though I was pleased with finding the origan of the pin wheel, willing to except that such a "tool" could still be something "authentic" to that cultures background without just being souly an modern adoption. …There was still one last thing that was bothering me with Windsinger adopting the pinwheel as a very iconc symbol.

Why pinwheels?







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Why pinwheels? What about them makes them so significant in it's starting culture to the point where we are here today with the Windsinger adopting pinwheels. Outside of the Occam's razor argument of childlike wonderment you get from holding it I felt like there had to be more. So I looked up some more cultural sensitivity evidence from the real world seeing how Pinwheels are used. And well this is what I found.


A BRIDGE TO THE BEYOND
In the far north of Japan is a place of awesome desolation where the spirits of the dead are thought to gather. Osore-zan (Fear Mountain) was revered already in ancient times by the indigenous Ainu people, who once inhabited that northern region of the island of Honshu, before they were driven into Ezo (now called Hokkaido) by the Japanese. osorezan_01.jpg

osorezan_03.jpg Women of all ages, occasionally accompanied by their husbands, come to arrange poignant offerings to the spirits of their lost children along the lakeshore: toys, flowers, coins, candy, snacks. Nearly every cluster of offerings is marked with one or more pinwheels which spin in the breeze, ruffling the air with the softest of sounds. The parents stay a while, praying, remembering. . . . Often they bring a picnic lunch which they will eat right there, seated on the ground, sharing food and conversation with the spirit.


Traditional Japan: Exploring Culture On Okinawa’s Taketomi Island

Because the island of Taketomi is heritage-listed, the buildings in the village are all required to look the same. Along with being one-story with coral-lined yards and red-tiled roofs, each one has a shiisa for protection. These animated lion statues protect inhabitants from misfortune and bad weather. You may notice some of them holding an object, either a ball, pinwheel or ladder. While the ladder represents reaching your accomplishments step-by-step at the age of 60, the ball symbolizes how one has control over their world at the age of 70. If you spot a pinwheel, this stands for the circle of life when a person is in their 80s and how they become like a child again. WurOnZV.png



That and some antidotal evidence that I wasn't able to find more sources of, but more so word of mouth from others in QnA areas across the net. I ran into it a few couple of times every time the question popped up and I felt that it would be worth sharing. These following lines are just copy and paste lines from many diffrent blogs.



The symbolic meaning of a pinwheel is “to turn one’s luck around”. Chinese culture believes the pinwheel is an instrument to turn obstacles into opportunities and as such they are a revered symbol during Chinese New Year festitivies. A pinwheel symbolizes childhood and your carefree nature.They have become quite elaborate and are used during Chinese New Year festivities to bestow good luck, longevity, health, and prosperity on its owner. In China, pinwheels can also be seen in temples and cemeteries. They are believed to be for the loss of a child.

I have heard that locally they (pinwheels) are called "bagua" and Bagua historically are are 8 symbols used in "ancient science of the origin and development of the universe"
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each symbol repersenting what make the univurse at large. and there are two I wish to focuse on.


Name - Nature/element - seasons it repersents- meaning

Qián- Sky - Summer- Expansive energy, the sky.

Xùn- Wind - Summer- Gentle penetration, flexibility.

Expansive energy, and flexibility Many other attributes clame that what makes up this and other elements is the essence of "creativity". These are all traits that the wind culture that the Windsinger cultivated are famous for.
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The wind dragons of the Windswept Plateau are explorers. They prefer to be joyful and care-free, like the gentle and playful breezes that whisk them to new lands. Of all the dragons, wind dragons are the most friendly, eager to become a small part of every community they encounter before they eventually and inevitably leave, following the currents in pursuit of a new adventure. Maps, compasses, and feathers are their favored treasures.

And well for flexibility? Well since the gods did make their children in their image.
Spiral n Skydancer encyclopedia entry wrote:
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Their ropey lengths instinctively wrap and coil around any available surface even in slumber. This adaptation has kept many Spirals from meeting an unfortunate end.

They rely on their natural agility to protect them from oncoming attacks. Their erratic, unpredictable flight patterns make them a difficult target to hit.

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Like their spiral cousins, Skydancers are an active species. They enjoy channeling their energy into elaborate dances and displays of aerial acrobatics.

a more litteral interpitation but valid in my eyes none the less ^^. Thus this is a reason why the pinwheel is symbolic to the windflight outside of being a hatchling toy, aconection thorugh it's more historical context…However there is still one more thing.



One thing that I saw said a lot around the internet was this:

In Chinese culture, the pinwheel is an instrument to “turn one’s luck around,” or turn obstacles into opportunities.

And…to me I think this reason here is truly why windsinger's flight adorns the land with pinwheels. It's symbolic of the struggles and trials that Windsinger puts on his children, either by choice or by chance and mistake.

You can look at the World map description of each of the flights and get a feel for the land. And windsinger tells a tale of a jorny and the goal is to get to the cloud song. It's quite a long jorney to get that much treasure after all~ And if you are reading this, that means that you–shy person from the wind flight whom has never posted on the fourms– are slowly traveling and meating new people asyou work up the money to get to the gradest lair area of them all =) how pretty is that?


However …… there is one more location where i feel that this saying "obstacles into opportunities" is used at it's fullest.

To not spoil the story, I highly encourage you to read or re-read the lore book which was added to the game during Bounty of the Elements…and perhaps maybe you can learn what the courier dragon learned that day and maybe learn why you should appreciate the little pinwheel in the courier's bag~










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Theory: Murals of 1st age is/'nt real
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An interpretation of Chapter 1: The First Age from the soul fact that we do not know who is the author of the story. There by we don't know if what we see is fact.…that and i saw some beta artwork from the artist who drew the dragons here and im like YO THIS STUFF IS COOL I WANNA SHOW IT TO EVERYONE.

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I'm just in awe of the amount of digging and thought put into this. <3 Great work!
I'm just in awe of the amount of digging and thought put into this. <3 Great work!
As a darker idea, you've said that the pinwheels are also used as offering for deceased children. Maybe the bigger pinwheels are windsingers offerings for all his children that gave their lives for his cause? Like they are not for any single dragon, but many dragons like memorials

(also awesome research! I was wondering what the pinwheels mean <3)
As a darker idea, you've said that the pinwheels are also used as offering for deceased children. Maybe the bigger pinwheels are windsingers offerings for all his children that gave their lives for his cause? Like they are not for any single dragon, but many dragons like memorials

(also awesome research! I was wondering what the pinwheels mean <3)
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As a person in the wind flight, I appreciate this and honestly, it makes me love my decision for choosing this flight in the first place. All of it makes sense and to learn that much more about the pinwheel, its history and even its significance just makes me want more pinwheels. Thank you for all the amount of research you went through for this, and that game looks pretty fun (I'm going to have to give it a try). Also, hope you don't mind me showing this to the rest of Wind Flight because I think they would appreciate it too).
As a person in the wind flight, I appreciate this and honestly, it makes me love my decision for choosing this flight in the first place. All of it makes sense and to learn that much more about the pinwheel, its history and even its significance just makes me want more pinwheels. Thank you for all the amount of research you went through for this, and that game looks pretty fun (I'm going to have to give it a try). Also, hope you don't mind me showing this to the rest of Wind Flight because I think they would appreciate it too).
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[quote name="@Eiira" date="2018-04-08 12:00:54" ] As a person in the wind flight, I appreciate this and honestly, it makes me love my decision for choosing this flight in the first place. All of it makes sense and to learn that much more about the pinwheel, its history and even its significance just makes me want more pinwheels. Thank you for all the amount of research you went through for this, and that game looks pretty fun (I'm going to have to give it a try). Also, hope you don't mind me showing this to the rest of Wind Flight because I think they would appreciate it too). [/quote] as i was reading your post vea text to speach i was going to ask you to do just that. I'm veryhappy I made you proud of your choice. My alternative goal is to try to make every flight feel proud of the choice they made. I wrote this because I am proud of my family's heritage, even if it is not my blood. I know it is my Half sisters and I cant wait to show her this. heck when she was still a little too young to join the game, i showed her all the dragon types and gods and asked her which one did she like the most, and she chose wind hands down. so please share this around so long as you link back i wouldnt mind at all =D [quote name="@Lunakitty" date="2018-04-08 12:00:48" ] As a darker idea, you've said that the pinwheels are also used as offering for deceased children. Maybe the bigger pinwheels are windsingers offerings for all his children that gave their lives for his cause? Like they are not for any single dragon, but many dragons like memorials (also awesome research! I was wondering what the pinwheels mean <3) [/quote] How is that dark? it's their intended use. When I was little, I'm talking like Jr highschool age so around 11 ~12 ish. I found a new shortcut to cut across the train tracks to walk to school faster. When I was passing the traintracks i spoted a new mamorial by the train fence of someone whom died. I past by it often and even though the flowers and candies soon disapeared or became appart with the earth, the image of the kid still stayed there. I went across to the 7/11 and baught a small pinwheel and hammered it into the soil and tied it to the fence post, and that little pinwheel, still dirty, remains there. It's been about 12 years, and it's still there last time i checked it. Life involves death, its apart of life To respect and talk about how one copes with life that is lost isn't dark in it's nature. "to turn obstacles into opportunities" can be interpolated to how one deals with the obstacle of death into growth. It is not dark, mearly an offering to the ones whom past =) ………… not every cuture views death as "dark" is what i'm trying to say ^^;;;; if you want a great example of a non """""amarican"""" POV of death but is still "easy for you to get" , watch the movie Coco by Pixar edit funny…wile writing this i imagen windsinger easlysinging this to a child whom lost their parents and exulted themselves to him or some equivlenet of music [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WraKfeFtOPs&ab_channel=AkiAquaStar]vid[/url] not…asin nessisarly but still relevent i feel he's caring =)
@Eiira wrote on 2018-04-08 12:00:54:
As a person in the wind flight, I appreciate this and honestly, it makes me love my decision for choosing this flight in the first place. All of it makes sense and to learn that much more about the pinwheel, its history and even its significance just makes me want more pinwheels. Thank you for all the amount of research you went through for this, and that game looks pretty fun (I'm going to have to give it a try). Also, hope you don't mind me showing this to the rest of Wind Flight because I think they would appreciate it too).
as i was reading your post vea text to speach i was going to ask you to do just that.
I'm veryhappy I made you proud of your choice. My alternative goal is to try to make every flight feel proud of the choice they made. I wrote this because I am proud of my family's heritage, even if it is not my blood. I know it is my Half sisters and I cant wait to show her this.
heck when she was still a little too young to join the game, i showed her all the dragon types and gods and asked her which one did she like the most, and she chose wind hands down.
so please share this around so long as you link back i wouldnt mind at all =D




@Lunakitty wrote on 2018-04-08 12:00:48:
As a darker idea, you've said that the pinwheels are also used as offering for deceased children. Maybe the bigger pinwheels are windsingers offerings for all his children that gave their lives for his cause? Like they are not for any single dragon, but many dragons like memorials

(also awesome research! I was wondering what the pinwheels mean <3)

How is that dark? it's their intended use.

When I was little, I'm talking like Jr highschool age so around 11 ~12 ish. I found a new shortcut to cut across the train tracks to walk to school faster. When I was passing the traintracks i spoted a new mamorial by the train fence of someone whom died. I past by it often and even though the flowers and candies soon disapeared or became appart with the earth, the image of the kid still stayed there.
I went across to the 7/11 and baught a small pinwheel and hammered it into the soil and tied it to the fence post, and that little pinwheel, still dirty, remains there.
It's been about 12 years, and it's still there last time i checked it.


Life involves death, its apart of life
To respect and talk about how one copes with life that is lost isn't dark in it's nature.

"to turn obstacles into opportunities" can be interpolated to how one deals with the obstacle of death into growth.
It is not dark, mearly an offering to the ones whom past =)

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not every cuture views death as "dark" is what i'm trying to say ^^;;;;

if you want a great example of a non """""amarican"""" POV of death but is still "easy for you to get" , watch the movie Coco by Pixar

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funny…wile writing this i imagen windsinger easlysinging this to a child whom lost their parents and exulted themselves to him or some equivlenet of music
vid

not…asin nessisarly but still relevent i feel
he's caring =)
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Wow, that was really informational, I applaud all your hard work putting this together!
Wow, that was really informational, I applaud all your hard work putting this together!
For me, every day is World Kindness Day. b59f9d9c-60d2-11eb-95e1-814ec59a413c.gifa663c882-026b-11eb-9626-db1f1f278684.gif
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I don't have the "american" view of it, though european isn't too far off. I guess death just is still stuck in my head as something dark, since it is seen here as such, though I personally have accepted it as part of life and I love reading and seeing different more positive takes on it like with Coco. Though I hadn't had the chance yet to see the movie myself, I understand parts of what it is about, because I have read about the day of the dead before and it was such a nice way of looking at death that it stuck with me.
And thanks for sharing that story, it's heartwarming and the pinwheel itself feels more nice than just a plain old cross or stone, especially for a child.

The idea with windsinger singing and actively caring for his exalts is absolutely adorable. It would make sense too I think, at least to me wind always feels like the flight that would have the most musicians and I can see windsinger being the caring dadfigure, which always tries to see the positive side of things and makes everyone feel better

Because of such nice little things I'm really thinking about moving to wind, the little symbols and meaning and I really like windsingers design anyway, so do I like shadowbinder though. Sadly there aren't that many things for shadow, other than bramble, glowshrooms, cheese and moon symbolism, we don't have much as far as I have seen...
Huh, I've just looked again at the translation of bramble and apparently it can also mean blackberry (hence it's second name brambleberry) and according to my book of plant symbolism it is a symbol for death, pain, grief, but also humility, remorse and godly love. Welp, the more you know.

I think I derailed a bit, but yeah, again awesome research and an awesome way to make FRs lore feel a bit more alive ^^
@catgame21234
I don't have the "american" view of it, though european isn't too far off. I guess death just is still stuck in my head as something dark, since it is seen here as such, though I personally have accepted it as part of life and I love reading and seeing different more positive takes on it like with Coco. Though I hadn't had the chance yet to see the movie myself, I understand parts of what it is about, because I have read about the day of the dead before and it was such a nice way of looking at death that it stuck with me.
And thanks for sharing that story, it's heartwarming and the pinwheel itself feels more nice than just a plain old cross or stone, especially for a child.

The idea with windsinger singing and actively caring for his exalts is absolutely adorable. It would make sense too I think, at least to me wind always feels like the flight that would have the most musicians and I can see windsinger being the caring dadfigure, which always tries to see the positive side of things and makes everyone feel better

Because of such nice little things I'm really thinking about moving to wind, the little symbols and meaning and I really like windsingers design anyway, so do I like shadowbinder though. Sadly there aren't that many things for shadow, other than bramble, glowshrooms, cheese and moon symbolism, we don't have much as far as I have seen...
Huh, I've just looked again at the translation of bramble and apparently it can also mean blackberry (hence it's second name brambleberry) and according to my book of plant symbolism it is a symbol for death, pain, grief, but also humility, remorse and godly love. Welp, the more you know.

I think I derailed a bit, but yeah, again awesome research and an awesome way to make FRs lore feel a bit more alive ^^
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This was so informative and I loved reading it :D Amazing as usual!!
This was so informative and I loved reading it :D Amazing as usual!!
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My first thought was windmills and how specific the colors of the pinwheels have to the kites so they have meaning in that they both catch/ride the wind and purpose which I found two relevant: 'The production of pepper and other spices' and 'Paper companies used to change wood pulp into paper'. Spices are important a lot of cuisine and I've no doubt that Wind is the same but also paper cause maps.

Anemometers come to mind as well cause a lot of Wind would want to know about how fast and which direction the wind is blowing to take full advantage.

But reading this I'm glad to know there's way more to it! Also the death memorials....take note that the pin wheels are near the Twisting Crescendo:
Torrents of angry air pull clouds in an aggressive spiral, and even the most adept wind dragons avoid the eye, a place from which many rarely return.
My first thought was windmills and how specific the colors of the pinwheels have to the kites so they have meaning in that they both catch/ride the wind and purpose which I found two relevant: 'The production of pepper and other spices' and 'Paper companies used to change wood pulp into paper'. Spices are important a lot of cuisine and I've no doubt that Wind is the same but also paper cause maps.

Anemometers come to mind as well cause a lot of Wind would want to know about how fast and which direction the wind is blowing to take full advantage.

But reading this I'm glad to know there's way more to it! Also the death memorials....take note that the pin wheels are near the Twisting Crescendo:
Torrents of angry air pull clouds in an aggressive spiral, and even the most adept wind dragons avoid the eye, a place from which many rarely return.
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[quote name="Lunakitty" date="2018-04-08 12:52:07" ] @/catgame21234 I don't have the "american" view of it, though european isn't too far off. I guess death just is still stuck in my head as something dark, since it is seen here as such, though I personally have accepted it as part of life and I love reading and seeing different more positive takes on it like with Coco. Though I hadn't had the chance yet to see the movie myself, I understand parts of what it is about, because I have read about the day of the dead before and it was such a nice way of looking at death that it stuck with me. And thanks for sharing that story, it's heartwarming and the pinwheel itself feels more nice than just a plain old cross or stone, especially for a child. The idea with windsinger singing and actively caring for his exalts is absolutely adorable. It would make sense too I think, at least to me wind always feels like the flight that would have the most musicians and I can see windsinger being the caring dadfigure, which always tries to see the positive side of things and makes everyone feel better Because of such nice little things I'm really thinking about moving to wind, the little symbols and meaning and I really like windsingers design anyway, so do I like shadowbinder though. Sadly there aren't that many things for shadow, other than bramble, glowshrooms, cheese and moon symbolism, we don't have much as far as I have seen... Huh, I've just looked again at the translation of bramble and apparently it can also mean blackberry (hence it's second name brambleberry) and according to my book of plant symbolism it is a symbol for death, pain, grief, but also humility, remorse and godly love. Welp, the more you know. I think I derailed a bit, but yeah, again awesome research and an awesome way to make FRs lore feel a bit more alive ^^ [/quote] @Lunakitty yeah you get the idea, US and EU share a lot of the same stuff when it comes to death and what not. The more exsposure we get from other cultures i feel the better. My favorite player made festival was Plague's day of the dead celebration of year 2017. I almost wish it was that every year now. I recall reading in a childrens book about an amarican boy whom went over the sea for a funeral for a grandpa, they lived in china. The boy was confused why everyone was throwing a party in the cemitary, and so i was too. Thats when i was first introduced to why people celebrated rather than cryed. [s]*writes notes on that plant for a later theory*[/s]
Lunakitty wrote on 2018-04-08 12:52:07:
@/catgame21234
I don't have the "american" view of it, though european isn't too far off. I guess death just is still stuck in my head as something dark, since it is seen here as such, though I personally have accepted it as part of life and I love reading and seeing different more positive takes on it like with Coco. Though I hadn't had the chance yet to see the movie myself, I understand parts of what it is about, because I have read about the day of the dead before and it was such a nice way of looking at death that it stuck with me.
And thanks for sharing that story, it's heartwarming and the pinwheel itself feels more nice than just a plain old cross or stone, especially for a child.

The idea with windsinger singing and actively caring for his exalts is absolutely adorable. It would make sense too I think, at least to me wind always feels like the flight that would have the most musicians and I can see windsinger being the caring dadfigure, which always tries to see the positive side of things and makes everyone feel better

Because of such nice little things I'm really thinking about moving to wind, the little symbols and meaning and I really like windsingers design anyway, so do I like shadowbinder though. Sadly there aren't that many things for shadow, other than bramble, glowshrooms, cheese and moon symbolism, we don't have much as far as I have seen...
Huh, I've just looked again at the translation of bramble and apparently it can also mean blackberry (hence it's second name brambleberry) and according to my book of plant symbolism it is a symbol for death, pain, grief, but also humility, remorse and godly love. Welp, the more you know.

I think I derailed a bit, but yeah, again awesome research and an awesome way to make FRs lore feel a bit more alive ^^

@Lunakitty
yeah you get the idea, US and EU share a lot of the same stuff when it comes to death and what not. The more exsposure we get from other cultures i feel the better. My favorite player made festival was Plague's day of the dead celebration of year 2017. I almost wish it was that every year now. I recall reading in a childrens book about an amarican boy whom went over the sea for a funeral for a grandpa, they lived in china.
The boy was confused why everyone was throwing a party in the cemitary, and so i was too. Thats when i was first introduced to why people celebrated rather than cryed.

*writes notes on that plant for a later theory*
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