Flight Rising Discussion

[s]pinging lore buddies @violalore @RoyalSketchbook @bowserslave @DizHydr0n @Aequorin [/s] [b] HI, IT'S ME! Catti![/b] Before I adress my friend, @Pocketss, I must first dedicate this letter to also be open to another potential reader of this message. Right off the bat I just want to get this off my chest, i love playing this game you made [center][user=2730] [/center] @Aequorin , I love the lore, the community, the interface, artwork, name it. Though there is this one litlte thing that i take qualms with. You give us vague responses, just enough to get us started theory crafting but leave JUST A TINY BIT OF DETAIL out where we can not fill the gaps without making [b] game changing[/b] assumptions [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/fl5/2223088/3]such as what is wrong with our planets gravity which was disgusted at nauzium here.[/url] [b](figure 0)[/b] [i]You think you're clever…[/i] But, little mousey mouse I'm afraid to tell you that you messed up on your little game of CAT AND MOUSE WITH FATE! You're little precious art team HAS BETRAYED YOU, for, with their combine powers and the little tidbits of knowledge you have given to us through Q n A, has given me enough knowledge to make a legitimate approximation of the hight of of every god with minimal assumptions. And this madness stems from one source. [center][url=http://flightrising.com/main.php?dragon=29649722] [img]http://flightrising.com/rendern/350/296498/29649722_350.png[/img] [/url] [size=5]THIS LONE BOGSNEAK[/size][/center] [indent]Now, this whole thing didn't start from me wanting to know about the size of the gods.[/indent] This really just started from me reading your two posts here Mx. Aequorin. [quote][quote]How large are the BeastClan species, especially as compared to dragons? Are harpies the size of a bird, a human, or larger or smaller? Are centaurs the size of a horse, a human, or larger? Can a Talonok rival an imperial? Is a clan that finds itself attacked by Longnecks doomed unless they have at least one member of the larger species (ridgeback, guardian, imperial)? Etc.[/quote] The creatures of Flight Rising would not know what a "human" is, so consider the following a non-lore-friendly comparison! Talonok are the smallest beastclan, around the size of a large bird of prey such as a bearded vulture. Harpies and Longneck are about the size of a human. Serthis and Maren are slightly larger than a human, and much longer. Centaurs are the largest, and are the size of a horse.[/quote] [b]figure 1[/b] and [quote name="Aequorin" date=2017-03-28 22:37:47] [quote]How does canon apparel work? I noticed in the most recent live update, the tail piece has feathers which scale to each dragon species. The cats and frogs also show as the same size on screen no matter if they're on a fae or an imperial. Is this size difference canon or used for site convenience/visibility to the player?[/quote] The size difference is for convenience and visibility to the player. A housecat that accompanies a fae will be nearly the same size, while one that accompanies an imperial would be a very small friend indeed! [/quote] [b]figure 2[/b] [columns][img]http://i.imgur.com/pk7GE5J.png[/img] [b]figure 3[/b][nextcol] It started from just a simple curiosity of seeing how my familiars and overall dragons scaled up to everyone else, especially humans and just my familiars I have for them. Though there are some exstreamly handy sorces such as [url]https://emcall.github.io/dragonsizes/[/url] to help you to see how long every dragon is (as shown on fig 1 where the small dragon is 2 m long wile the imperial is 28 m long, you may then use 2m and converter that into something we can compare to easly) it is not OFFICIAL. My attempts at finding the "hight" of the dragons proved ineffected from al my dragons in my lair due to their odds size and or folded wings where I don't know how they work at all. And with not knowing much about wings, i thought there'd be no way for me to figure out how cotal wings work. And this, my fine furry fluff pocket friend is where the bogsneak comes in. [/columns] [center][url=http://flightrising.com/main.php?dragon=29649722][img]http://i.imgur.com/g7L4sOm.png[/img][/url] [b]figure 4[/b][/center] [indent]Comparing the bogsneak to every other dragon breed, outside of Coatls, fully [/indent] displays the wing at what I can approximate to be the full existent of it's wing. And unlike Coatls you can have a cleaer-er time identifying the joints. And the special thing about this bogsneak is that his wingspan messures [b]7.99m[/b]. If we [u]round[/u] just 0.01 m we get a clean [b]8m wingspan[/b] that should look something like this. [center][img]http://i.imgur.com/vVUA9jw.png[/img] [b]figure 5[/b][/center] Is this to the dot what I need? No, it clearly looks off [b]a bit[/b] since it's wing span is not fully out. But for the sake of our porpuses, [u] and you earlier stating that everything scales within the dragon's image [/u]. We can make due and assume that ROUGHLY something that stands 2m tall would rest along here. [center][img]http://i.imgur.com/aYKpMV6.png[/img] [b]figure 6[/b][/center] With the combine power of the image just above as a fact checker and the power of the that sight that I linked earlyer by figure 3 I was able to deduct the general rough hights of all my dragons that i cared for at the time of the image's creation! [img]http://i.imgur.com/SPZIUEp.png[/img] [b]figure 7[/b] VVVVV For full size VVVVV [code]http://i.imgur.com/SPZIUEp.png[/code] [indent]For now, we will close this chapter in our book and focuse on another area. [i][i]But we will come back to this[/i][/i].[/indent] So this was all well and good, i was able to get what I want and you'ed think I'd be done. But being the stickeler that I am I started to wonder accreate I could be with other mesurements. And considering that I was starting to draw the gods of this world, and I was commissioning someone for refrence sheets, I was in hyper mode in trying to get everything right. [img]http://i.imgur.com/TrTynK6.png[/img] [b]figure 8[/b] When I got the first draft of the refrence sheet I got a view of his side and something was off. In this and in the other versions that I can not fight right now. He felt too small and offten he had the wrong number of spines. After i did some mesurements on my behalf I discovered that [u]the spacing between windsinger's horns that ran along his back where of equal distance from one another[/u]. Which every single interval that was a simple "streight" connection was 3/4th's is head size, or 75%. Useing that knowlage i was able to take an educated guess from how roughly long he was. [img]http://i.imgur.com/KA4TrRv.gif[/img] [b]figure 9[/b] VVVV full size VVVV [code]http://i.imgur.com/KA4TrRv.gif[/code] @RoyalSketchbook then constructed the refrence sheet with as closly to cannon / splash artwork proportional of a refrence sheet they could make. [img]http://i.imgur.com/FosZu1E.jpg[/img] [b]figure 10[/b] VVVV FULL SIZE VVVV [code]http://i.imgur.com/FosZu1E.jpg[/code] Like any excited child getting a new toy I waved my commission in front of all my friends, and one of them named @Pocketss said that quote: "but we still don't know how big is his stupid head…: i mean like in meters". And this is why, dear readers, is why i am here today, to find the size of windsinger's head size. And in order to do that we must find out the size of every single god. [indent]The reason why we must find every single size is because it is[/indent] stated that windsinger is the longest god out of all of them, length coroaraltes with scale, and the long you are the bigger you are. We are already told that Windsinger is the "top of the litter" being of the first origanal 3 and arcanist is the "runt" of the litter. [quote="Aequorin"]A while ago you said that the Arcanist was the smallest deity, but now I'm wondering... who is the largest? By length, @Windsinger. By mass, @Earthshaker. The oldest gods are the most massive. @Windsinger, @Earthshaker, @Tidelord, and @Flamecaller manifest the largest physical presences.[/quote] [b]figure 11a[/b] [quote="Aequorin"]Who is bigger, Icewarden or Earthshaker? Earthshaker.[/quote] [b]figure 11b[/b] [quote="Aequorin"]How big are the deities compared to the different dragon breeds? Are they all bigger than Imperials? The size of guardians? Are they all roughly the same size? The deities range in size, but even the smallest (@Arcanist) is many times the size of the largest dragon. [/quote] [b]figure 11c[/b] So we already have some constances in play. [LIST] [*]Wind's length > Earthshaker's hight [*]Earthshaker > Icewarden (and everyone else but wind) [*]The 4 oldest gods hight > The 7 other gods' hight. [*]The 10 gods' hight(s) > Arcanist's hight. [*]Arcanist hight > "many times larger" than the largest dragon. [*] They must range in size. [/LIST] This is here where we [b]start making our [u]few[/u] logical assumptions[/b] IF arcanist is the smallest god AND youngest, AND if the largest gods in general are the OLDEST gods, then we can ASSUME that AGE plays a roll in roughly how tall each god is, EXCEPT for windsinger where his tallness translated into length. Lucky for us they illistrated the age of every single god. [quote="Aequorin"]Earthshaker, Flamecaller, Windsinger, Tidelord, Stormcatcher, Icewarden, Lightweaver/Shadowbinder (same time), Plaguebringer/Gladekeper (same time), Arcanist. [/quote] [b]figure 12[/b] So if we took this list to heart, this would be the gods hight (windsinger being the odd ball out) by largest to smallest [LIST=1] [*]Earthshaker [*]Flamecaller [*]Windsinger [*]Tidelord [*]Stormcatcher [*]Icewarden [*]Lightweaver/Shadowbinder (same time) [*]Plaguebringer/Gladekeper (same time) [*]Arcanist. [/LIST] This now drives us to ask one simple question "how many times larger is Arcanist to the largest normal dragon?" well for starters we can not use any offical artwork of arcanist shown in the Encyclopedia for if we where to do that then this would be cannon, which I highly doubt this is the case. [center][img]http://i.imgur.com/KKKZAIc.png[/img] ~Artwork @Pocketss[/center] So leaving no other options we are left to [b]assume[/b] how many times bigger Arcanist is from the largest dragon. Lets say for our case we shall [b]assume for the second time[/b] that arcanist is 3 times larger than an imperial. [img]http://i.imgur.com/D9eNhDN.jpg[/img] This brings arcanist here, a respectiabol size. Looks like something out of final fantasy final boss. Scary. But can stlll look thorugh a telescope. [b]This puts Arcanist's splash art, and there for [b]arcanist approximate hight at 30m tall.[/b] Now we don't know how much larger inbetween each god the jump is so [b] lets assume for the last time that for every god they gain "one arcanist" in hight. Another 30m to their overall tallness. or in other words Glade n Pluagehight = GP ARcanist's hight = A 30m≤A<GP [/b] [img]http://i.imgur.com/W0CG4lF.jpg[/img] Gladekeeper and Pluagebringer at 2 arcanists tall (60m) Lightweaver n Shadowbinder= LS Glade n Pluagehight = GP ARcanist's hight = A 30m≤A<GP<LS [img]http://i.imgur.com/K5gUd8z.jpg[/img] Lightweaver and Shadowbinder at 3 arcanists tall (90m) Icewarden= IW Lightweaver n Shadowbinder= LS Glade n Pluagehight = GP ARcanist's hight = A 30m≤A<GP<LS<IW [img]http://i.imgur.com/hN0AcqW.jpg[/img] Icewarden at 4 arcanists tall (120m) Stormcatcher=StC Icewarden= IW Lightweaver n Shadowbinder= LS Glade n Pluagehight = GP ARcanist's hight = A 30m≤A<GP<LS<IW<StC [img]http://i.imgur.com/0xUT5vb.jpg[/img] Mr. Spark at 5 arcanists tall (150m) Tidelord= TL Stormcatcher=StC Icewarden= IW Lightweaver n Shadowbinder= LS Glade n Pluagehight = GP ARcanist's hight = A 30m≤A<GP<LS<IW<StC<TL [img]http://i.imgur.com/CtPATak.jpg[/img] Tidelord at 6 arcanists tall (180m) [img]http://i.imgur.com/NErne2h.jpg[/img] Windsinger up to scale and larger than Tidelord due to age at 7 Arcanists tall (210m) Flamecaller= FC Tidelord= TL Stormcatcher=StC Icewarden= IW Lightweaver n Shadowbinder= LS Glade n Pluagehight = GP ARcanist's hight = A 30m≤A<GP<LS<IW<StC<TL<FC [img]http://i.imgur.com/nJ1zsKW.jpg[/img] Flamecaller at 8 arcanists tall (240m) Earthshaker= ES Flamecaller= FC Tidelord= TL Stormcatcher=StC Icewarden= IW Lightweaver n Shadowbinder= LS Glade n Pluagehight = GP ARcanist's hight = A 30m≤A<GP<LS<IW<StC<TL<FC<ES [img]http://i.imgur.com/OkpHdIc.jpg[/img] Earthshaker at 9 arcanists tall (270m) only one word can discribe this big no epic in proportions but now we come back to that question of how long windsinger is? Well remember [b]figure 10[/b]? We take that properly proportion refrence of windsinger from the side and scale up the head to the same size that windsinger's head is in the photo. but, the number that i found when doing this math is [size=7][b]god, dam, TERRIFYING[/b][/size] [img]http://i.imgur.com/yUAwkNZ.png[/img] So we scale up the head yes? and clearly we should guess that he'll streach past the canvis space how much though? half way off? a good bit? maybe twice the langth of the canvus space … if we zoom out to %1 from the navigation window, we can see just how long he is [img]http://i.imgur.com/vDmP0By.png[/img] that line at the bottom is where that layer ends. after getting as close as i could see, that scaled up windsinger refrence is [b] 42500px long[/b] Our scale to our 2m after reductions of the image is about [b]25px long[/b] 2m=25px so after some quick math we can reduce that the windsinger's body is AROUND 850m long THIS IS TALLER THAN THE Burj Khalifa WHICH CLOCKS IN 828 WHATS THE BURJ!? not much really. Just the ONLY THE LARGEST STRUCTURE ON OUR PLANET [img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/93/Burj_Khalifa.jpg/480px-Burj_Khalifa.jpg[/img] [img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/BurjKhalifaHeight.png/900px-BurjKhalifaHeight.png[/img][/b] NOW WE CAN FINAY GET TO HOW BIG HIS HEAD IS AND WITH THAT LADIES AND GENTELMEN WE HAVE APROXIMENTLY A WOPING [img]http://i.imgur.com/H5kdo2I.png[/img] NEVER UNDERESTIMATE ME POCKETSS [b]NEVER[/b] [b][i]UNDERESTIMATE[/i][/b] [b][i][u]ME[/u][/i][/b] [right]Sincerely ~Catti[/right] [center]………PS[/center] [quote][u]Emperor dragons are danger on a battlefield where many Imperials have fallen. These ghastly behemoths are a mindless monstrosity, fused from the bodies of fallen Imperials with some specimens known to have reached [b]over 100 meters[/b] in length[/u]. ………… [u]these dangerous opponents are one of the few creatures that may draw the gods from their shrines and onto a battlefield.[/u][/quote] [img]http://i.imgur.com/dP6KkKZ.jpg[/img] [i]these…sizes held more water than I first thought[/i] [center] PSS if you are adding me to your friends list you will be pinged for future random lore threads i post as a "lore buddy". i seem to make a couple of hundred of them. [/center] PSSS [s]Friend invitations so far cause of this mess: 3 why are you doing this people[/s] too many to count Pssss [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2243380#post_2243380]the Unofficial sequel, tiny gods.[/url] Psssss [center] Want more Theories and Headcannons? Check out these links! [size=1] [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2256073/1] LoreTalk: First Age Battle Power Scale[/url] - [b]Open letter 2 Pocketss:WindDad'sHeadSize[/b] - [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2243113]Theory: Murals of 1st age is/'nt real[/url] - [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2244037/1]Open Letter: To The Arcanist[/url] - [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2258357#post_2258357] Theory:In the image of..Gladekeeper - [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2274420#post_2274420] Open letter:Arcanist & the 4th Dimension[/url] - [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2296253] Theory: The father of the Icewarden[/url] - [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2375835#post_2375835]Theory: Level of technology on Sornieth[/url] (Feb 2018) - - - [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2380813/1#post_31800788]Lore Buddies Man Hub[/url] Click to read more theories![/center]

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That's a big papa

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@catgame21234 i sincerely applaud your determination...what do i do with this new information....

....this is impressive

[quote name="alaskanbullworm" date=2017-07-21 18:57:47] That's a big papa [/quote]

That was an adventure of a read. I too applaud how much effort you must have put into this.

For us Monster hunter fans: Dalamadur is 440m long. this means the windsinger is TWICE AS LONG as dalamadur.